OK, I knew Denis had all the good info. it is the WCM. I have them on my panel. They bolt to the mount with a 6mm bolt, not the cheesy acorn arrangement, and WCM is the only one that has this style to my knowledge. --- On Tue, 11/15/11, Denis Dodson <coocoo@xxxxxxx> wrote: From: Denis Dodson <coocoo@xxxxxxx> Subject: [tcb] Re: Bus mirrors To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Tuesday, November 15, 2011, 8:51 PM Don’t any of you remember my whole drama about pre 67 mirrors? There are not being made anymore. We walked around the Eureka show and the Classic looking at mirrors and the fact is there are not any decent pre 67 mirrors being made any more. The new standard seems to be this “acorn” nut thing that is made of pressed metal and does not even have any welds. They will last, under the vibrations that we are all aware of in our busses, about 3 weeks. I took a “bullet” apart and built a mirror mount with a big ass washer, drill pressing holes, and a big glob of JB Weld to make a mount to work. I had to basically build a mirror mount. If you can’t find a bullet mount, you’re screwed. It seems that the only bus mirror worth buying any more, in a practical and maybe even a historical sense is the West Coast Mirror. It looks like a mirror from a 18 wheeler, but is has been around since the 60s and the first bus I ever bought, a ’60 bus (Jason) in ’72 had them and they worked great. Full vision and very little vibration. For mirrors you are going to have to buy cheap tinny crap, vintage bullet, build your own ( I did) or go with the West Coast. That’s all there is. From: tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tcb-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of James Dwan Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 6:28 PM To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tcb] Re: Bus mirrors I bought a set for my wife's Super and the glass fell out on the first trip to Keller's (less than 40 miles on the vehicle, and mirror). I called and complained and they said they would send me a new pair at cost... From: Mike <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 4:49 PM Subject: [tcb] Re: Bus mirrors Don't buy them from cip1. My brother bought a set for a bay and the acorn nut busted off. He got a replacement set and they did the same thing. Go to WW and spend a little more for Some good ones. Sent from the side of the road! Mike Hayes Mike@xxxxxxxxxxxx Dallas, Texas On Nov 15, 2011, at 3:10 PM, ATX BUS <atx_bus@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Time to upgrade my mirrors on the 67. Basically, my mirrors are worthless unless you like to see cars as they pass instead of before. Any good or bad experiences out there with mirrors? I found these http://www2.cip1.com/SearchResults.asp?Search=bus+mirrors&sort=7&Search1=Search Paul, what kind of mirrors do you have on the Zone? Jeff