I would LOVE an outside table bracket! (You said jack hole.) --- On Tue, 2/22/11, James Dwan <james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: James Dwan <james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [tcb] Re: Bus Depot Add-A-Room Side Tent Review To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Tuesday, February 22, 2011, 10:52 AM Yeah I have been putting off the side step because I have an outside the bus table bracket that uses a jack hole. I have to give that up but I have a 4 year old with shorter legs than mine. I'll see you at Fred. James --- On Tue, 2/22/11, kelly dosch <kellydosch@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: kelly dosch <kellydosch@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [tcb] Re: Bus Depot Add-A-Room Side Tent Review To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Tuesday, February 22, 2011, 7:55 AM Fredricksburg for sure, unless something unavoidable comes up. Like being broke. I might try for Nacogdoches too, but I'm not sure if I can swing it. No plans for Eureka, yet. A side step would be nice, but I just love that crazy ground clearance. So we just turn around and step out backwards. Much easier. --- On Tue, 2/22/11, James Dwan <james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: James Dwan <james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [tcb] Re: Bus Depot Add-A-Room Side Tent Review To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Tuesday, February 22, 2011, 8:41 AM Several good points. I think breeze would be very important when camping in the Summer. I think I'm gonna get a side step and an awning and next year will be the side tent. I'll save your review to remind me.No plans for Bulli Gras but I'll be at the Nac show, Fred and Eureka are you bringing it to any of those? James --- On Mon, 2/21/11, kelly dosch <kellydosch@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: kelly dosch <kellydosch@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [tcb] Re: Bus Depot Add-A-Room Side Tent Review To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Monday, February 21, 2011, 11:40 PM Thank you for introducing me to the Just Kampers site! It is amazing how one person can scour the web and not find everything. Two heads are better than one. I looked at the "Country Road". (Fiama?) That looks like a nice option. Although it only comes in gray which would bug me on my tan bus. It looks far more frustrating to set up in the video than my Add-a-Room. And if they can't make it look easy in a video, where they can edit out all the head scratching and swearing, that would scare me. On the other hand, it has more windows. It is also 15lbs lighter. I like that the floor zips on whereas mine is velcro. That takes a little adjusting, but the Add-a-Room is still an easier set-up. The sides on the Country Road don't open up into awnings. That is a nice option. You can unzip everything, but that breeze just doesn't blow through screens. And finally, I can tell from the pictures that the Add-a-Room is just built a bit tougher. So they each excel in different areas, it just depends on your needs. Oh and the Country Road packs down a little smaller, but like I said, the Add-a-Room comes in separate bags so you can spread it throughout the bus wherever each bag best fits. I hope that helped. There are just no reviews on any of these to be found anywhere, and Bus Depot has few pictures and no videos, which leaves one wondering. If you're going to Bulli Gras, feel free to wander up & check mine out. I'm the 1979 Mexican beige with the brown tent and rope lights. Kelly --- On Mon, 2/21/11, James Dwan <james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: James Dwan <james_dwan_2000@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [tcb] Re: Bus Depot Add-A-Room Side Tent Review To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Monday, February 21, 2011, 11:51 AM Thanks for the review, I have been on the fence about which one to buy for a while now. i looked at Just Kampers I think. I saw one one that actually had what appeared to be a porch, can't remember where I saw it. I'm either going to get a side room or an awning this year with my refund. I like the Fiamma ones.http://www.gowesty.com/ec_view_details.phpid=4292&category_id=277&category_parent_id= Did you look at Eurocampers.com? --- On Sat, 2/19/11, kelly dosch <kellydosch@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: kelly dosch <kellydosch@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [tcb] Bus Depot Add-A-Room Side Tent Review To: "Texas Coalition of Buses" <tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Saturday, February 19, 2011, 10:35 PM In case any of you have been considering selling a kidney to buy one these rudely over-priced tents, I highly recommend it. I think it is really every bit as good as they claim, if not better. Is it really over $400 worth of tent? Not by any stretch. For that money one might expect a Sherpa to carry it for you. But they have cornered the U.S. market so it's all about supply and demand. Does you want one or does you don't? I searched long and hard and finally found some side tents across the pond. They had some interesting tents but they don't ship to the U.S.. I checked the prices of a few remailing services, did the math, and one might as well get plowed by Bus Depot for all the trouble it was worth. Plus, Europeans are not terribly concerned with having a floor in a tent. That just doesn't fly down here with the swarms of mosquitoes. The Bus Depot tent makes an impressively snug fit against the bus and has a bottom curtain so wind, bugs and varmints don't just wander in underneath. The canvas is thin but stronger than your average tent. The poles are built like a tank. These tents are built to last. It actually packs down a bit smaller than they estimate and the tent, poles, and ropes and stakes are in 3 different bags, so you can spread them throughout the bus more efficiently than if it were all one huge mass. It is heavier than all hell at 85lbs, but most of the weight is in the poles. (which is a relatively small bag that will disappear, flush, in the front cargo rack) They are very heavy duty and built to last. Since It is something I want to last as long as my bus I cannot fault them for that. The poles are the cornerstone of the tent and it is safe to say they will last forever. The extra "changing room" is on sale, but I don't recommend it. It literally takes up half the tent. If you are shy about changing with your guests it is easier to just do it under the blankets or in the john at your campground. I didn't pay over $400 for a tent just to use half of it to change my pants in. I just wanted to give everybody my two cents worth because it is a lot of cash to drop on a product from a company that offers no reviews. They don't even have many pictures and the ones they have are crappy. I don't even think the one in the picture was entirely set up. It looks like a big potato sack. It really tightens down much nicer than the pic. All told- Are they overcharging us? Hell yes. But it did just turn my tiny Campmobile into a virtual cabin, adding 100 square feet of living space. Their profit margin must be shameful, but if you are camping with more than 2 people I still think it is worth it. And if you still want a changing cabin, just get the $35 Coleman shower. At least you can bathe in it as well.