Mind you, Cobolt are just as guilty of creating watches with roosters! Cheers Alex -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barbara Wilson Sent: 14 November 2008 09:15 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: RNIB Bashing! Ah but Matt, what would they do with all their roosters then? I wonder if they breed them internally or if they buy them in as and when required? Barbara Get listed, network or find a business at an online directory of businesses owned and run by disabled people and associated support and advisory organisations: www.barkingbabs.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Brown" <matthew_brown@xxxxxxx> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 11:33 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: RNIB Bashing! >I just can't understand why RNIB and various other commercial companies >haven't cottoned on to the idea that not all blind people are >stereo-typical dark glasses, white stick and nasty tacky plastic rooster >touting talking watch kind of people! None of the talking watches available >are particularly sexy to look at lets face it, especially not compared to >watches for fully sighted people, not even the metal ones. > > I've seen some incredibly sexy rectangular face watches for fully sighteds > that just look like they're a continuation of the wrist strap, and > something like that would be really nice with a voice. > > I know someone is bound to say that the components required to make a > watch talk are too bulky for such a design, but that's utter nonsense! The > components can be made to fit a much smaller housing than the talking > watch housings currently available. > > Matt > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Darren Harris" <darren_g_harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 5:09 PM > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: RNIB Bashing! > > > Oh you mean that stupid excuse for a mobile phone, that is so > rediculously expensive, so revolutionary that you can't even text > properly on it? I looked at one and all I wanted to do when I saw it was > to put my foot through it. What a peace of junk of I ever did see one! > > -----Original Message----- > From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke > Sent: 13 November 2008 17:06 > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: RNIB Bashing! > > > OMG yes I had forgotten about those. > > Eleanor > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barbara Wilson" <barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 5:00 PM > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: RNIB Bashing! > > >> Hmm, that rooster really gets on my nerves. Still, guess it's not >> quite as >> bad as the farmyard animals on their mobile phone! >> >> Barbara >> >> Get listed, network or find a business at an online directory of >> businesses owned and run by disabled people and associated support and > >> advisory organisations: >> www.barkingbabs.co.uk >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" <talks@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 4:50 PM >> Subject: [talks-uk] RNIB Bashing! >> >> >> Barbra, >> >> More to the point why do they insist on making the Alarms and clock >> announcements so dam noisy! We're blind not deaf after all! >> >> >> >> Neil Barnfather >> WFA List Administrator >> Talks Users Host >> >> Don't forget TalkNav which is a Nuance accessibility and Wayfinder >> Access software dealer and distributor, for all your product needs >> with instant product activation and an online store supporting British > >> Sterling, US Dollars and Euros. >> >> www.talknav.net >> +44 161 277 7997 >> service@xxxxxxxxxxx >> -----Original Message----- >> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >> On Behalf Of Barbara Wilson >> Sent: 13 November 2008 12:53 >> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks >> >> Probably playing with all those clocks they make. Someone asked me >> recently, >> >> why do RNIB feel the need to put a clock on ever damn product they >> produce? >> >> Barbara >> >> Get listed, network or find a business at an online directory of >> businesses >> owned and run by disabled people and associated support and advisory >> organisations: >> www.barkingbabs.co.uk >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:22 PM >> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks >> >> >>> What are they doing is what I want to know. If you want to speak to >>> Hi-Tech and have a demonstration of something that has to be on a >>> Thursday >> >>> here in London. What are they doing the other 4 days because they >>> they >>> do >> >>> not always return my calls or if I ask them to e-mail me they do not. > >>> I think they just sit in an office!!!! >>> >>> Eleanor >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Darren Harris" <darren_g_harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:16 PM >>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks >>> >>> >>> What the rnib? They're a bunch of prats who really haven't got a clue > >>> at the end of the day. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of All formats >>> Sent: 13 November 2008 11:59 >>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks >>> >>> >>> I should get used to them being around though. >>> >>> They are taking over everything it seems. >>> >>> Still, another list another discussion I guess! >>> >>> Paul Hopkins - Manager >>> >>> (All Formats) >>> >>> >>> >>> Queen Alexandra College >>> >>> Court Oak Road >>> >>> Harborne >>> >>> BIRMINGHAM >>> >>> B17 9TG >>> >>> >>> >>> Tel: >>> >>> 0121 428 5018 >>> >>> >>> >>> Fax: >>> >>> 0121 428 5048 >>> >>> >>> >>> E-mail: >>> >>> allformats@xxxxxxxxx >>> >>> >>> >>> Web: >>> >>> www.allformats.org.uk >>> >>> >>> >>> Allformats - Braille, Audio, Digital and Large Print Resources for >>> Access by People with a Visual Impairment. >>> >>> >>> >>> ***** >>> >>> Confidentiality and Disclaimer: >>> >>> This email and its attachments are intended for the addressee(s) only > >>> and may be confidential or the subject of legal privilege. If this >>> email and its attachments have come to you in error you must take no >>> action based on them, nor must you retain them, copy them, distribute > >>> them or disclose their contents to any other person. >>> >>> Please contact the sender immediately to notify them of the error. >>> >>> Opinions, conclusions and other information in this e-mail that do >>> not relate to the official business of Queen Alexandra College shall >>> be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. >>> >>> ***** >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >>> On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke >>> Sent: 13 November 2008 11:47 >>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks >>> >>> Well I have always seen (for want of a better word) the RNIB as the >>> Auricle but now I am changing my mind. >>> >>> Eleanor >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Barbara Wilson" <barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 11:24 AM >>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks >>> >>> >>>> Hi Eleanor >>>> >>>> Don't ever be surprised that the RNIB know very little! >>>> >>>> Barbara >>>> >>>> Get listed, network or find a business at an online directory of >>>> businesses owned and run by disabled people and associated support >>>> and >>> >>>> advisory organisations: >>>> www.barkingbabs.co.uk >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:19 AM >>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks >>>> >>>> >>>>> Neil >>>>> Thank you for that. I am a bit fed up at present, want to buy the >>>>> Wayfinder, got one price from RNIB, another at Sight Village from >>>>> the >>> >>>>> Company and another from Computer Room Services. Now I am not >>>>> complaining about any of these Agents for the product but the >>> cheapest >>>>> price came at Sight Village here in London and they did not say it >>> was >>>>> for the day only. I thought I had time to go away and think about >>>>> it. >>> >>>>> Now I am not going to purchase it. >>>>> >>>>> In fact it was only when I asked Steve or someone on the Access >>>>> list a question about upgrading Talks that a person at RNIB who had > >>>>> told me >>> I >>>>> could not upgrade then said it was news to her that I could upgrade >>> from >>>>> Vodafone Talks to Premium Talks on another phone for £50.00. That >>> from >>>>> RNIB Hi-Tech! >>>>> >>>>> Eleanor >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" <talks@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:03 AM >>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Eleanor, >>>>> >>>>> That's correct, whilst Talks continues to work, minus the ability >>>>> to move the license again, WFA can only function on one handset at >>>>> a time. >>>>> >>>>> But they don't charge to move from phone to phone. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Neil Barnfather >>>>> WFA List Administrator >>>>> Talks Users Host >>>>> >>>>> Don't forget TalkNav which is a Nuance accessibility and Wayfinder >>>>> Access software dealer and distributor, for all your product needs >>>>> with instant product activation and an online store supporting >>>>> British Sterling, US Dollars and Euros. >>>>> >>>>> www.talknav.net >>>>> +44 161 277 7997 >>>>> service@xxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >>>>> On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke >>>>> Sent: 13 November 2008 10:01 >>>>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks >>>>> >>>>> No deactivation of Talks there Scot from what Steve said. He >>>>> explained that >>>>> >>>>> very well about upgrading from phone A to B and B to C. Have a >>>>> look at his >>>>> reply there again. Steve has told me though that Wayfinder would >>>>> deactivate >>>>> >>>>> from one phone to another if put on a second phone. >>>>> >>>>> Eleanor >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Scott C" <castledine10@xxxxxxx> >>>>> To: "Talks List Talks List" <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:47 AM >>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks mate. So wen moving from B to C does talks stay on B or >>>>>> deactivate? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Scott. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Steve Nutt - Email Address: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent On: >>>>>> 13/11/2008 09:38 Sent To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Email Address: >>>>>> talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Scott, >>>>>> >>>>>> As many times as you like, but you can only use one phone per >>>>>> upgrade. In >>>>>> other words, you buy Phone A, you then use Phone A to upgrade to >>> Phone >>>>>> B. >>>>>> You can still use Phone B to upgrade to Phone C, but you can't use >>> Phone >>> >>>>>> A >>>>>> to upgrade to Phone C. So in other words, if you sell on Phone A, > >>>>>> the new >>>>>> customer can't use it for an upgrade, if you have done so. >>>>>> >>>>>> All the best >>>>>> >>>>>> Steve >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >>>>>> On Behalf Of Scott C >>>>>> Sent: Thursday 13 November 2008 09:37 >>>>>> To: Talks List Talks List >>>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] moving talks >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi folks. How many times can talks be moved from one phone to >>>>>> another? >>>>>> >>>>>> I know it's £50 to move it over from one to another, but how many >>>>>> times can I? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Scott. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. >>>>> We are a community of 5.6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter >>>>> has removed 650 of my spam emails to date. 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