[talks-uk] Re: RNIB Bashing!

  • From: "Amro Bilal" <Lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 22:35:42 -0000

And yeah, it has no screen either. What an excuse for a phone. And please no one comes back saying it's for the blind so we don't need a screen. That just like saying this shirt is ugly but never mind, you can wear it, you're blind and you can't see it anyway.
I'd pay the extra tenna to Steve or other vender and they'll just install Talks for me so the phone comes ready to use. 

Cheers,
Amro
----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 6:27 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: RNIB Bashing!


and yet I know of at least one person who has the Aosis or whatever it is
called and really likes it.  In its favour is that it comes all ready to go.
It has a fairly easy to use number pad.  You can't even put Talks on a phone
reliably without sighted help unles you are particularly good at remembering
sequences of button presses etc.

In my opinion however, those benefits are outweighed by the fact that you
can't send a text over 160 characters long, as far as I know you cannot back
up contacts to a PC or similar device and I don't know if others can send
you business cards.  The phone is also very expensive.  At least Talks is
being developed actively.

Regards

Graham .
----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren Harris" <darren_g_harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 5:09 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: RNIB Bashing!


Oh you mean that stupid excuse for a mobile phone, that is so
rediculously expensive, so revolutionary that you can't even text
properly on it? I looked at one and all I wanted to do when I saw it was
to put my foot through it. What a peace of junk of I ever did see one!

-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
Sent: 13 November 2008 17:06
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: RNIB Bashing!


OMG yes I had forgotten about those.

Eleanor
----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Wilson" <barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 5:00 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: RNIB Bashing!



Hmm, that rooster really gets on my nerves. Still, guess it's not
quite as
bad as the farmyard animals on their mobile phone!

Barbara

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" <talks@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 4:50 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] RNIB Bashing!


Barbra,

More to the point why do they insist on making the Alarms and clock
announcements so dam noisy! We're blind not deaf after all!



Neil Barnfather
WFA List Administrator
Talks Users Host

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-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Barbara Wilson
Sent: 13 November 2008 12:53
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks

Probably playing with all those clocks they make. Someone asked me
recently,

why do RNIB feel the need to put a clock on ever damn product they
produce?

Barbara

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:22 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks



What are they doing is what I want to know.  If you want to speak to
Hi-Tech and have a demonstration of something that has to be on a
Thursday



here in London.  What are they doing the other 4 days because they
they
do



not always return my calls or if I ask them to e-mail me they do not.



I think they just sit in an office!!!!

Eleanor
----- Original Message -----
From: "Darren Harris" <darren_g_harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:16 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks


What the rnib? They're a bunch of prats who really haven't got a clue



at the end of the day.

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Sent: 13 November 2008 11:59
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Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks


I should get used to them being around though.

They are taking over everything it seems.

Still, another list another discussion I guess!

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-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
Sent: 13 November 2008 11:47
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks

Well I have always seen (for want of a better word) the RNIB as the
Auricle but now I am changing my mind.

Eleanor
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barbara Wilson" <barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 11:24 AM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks



Hi Eleanor

Don't ever be surprised that the RNIB know very little!

Barbara

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businesses owned and run by disabled people and associated support
and



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----- Original Message -----
From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:19 AM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks



Neil
Thank you for that.  I am a bit fed up at present, want to buy the
Wayfinder, got one price from RNIB, another at Sight Village from
the



Company and another from Computer Room Services.  Now I am not
complaining about any of these Agents for the product but the

cheapest

price came at Sight Village here in London and they did not say it

was

for the day only. I thought I had time to go away and think about
it.



Now I am not going to purchase it.

In fact it was only when I asked Steve or someone on the Access
list a question about upgrading Talks that a person at RNIB who had



told me

I

could not upgrade then said it was news to her that I could upgrade

from

Vodafone Talks to Premium Talks on another phone for £50.00.  That

from

RNIB Hi-Tech!

Eleanor
----- Original Message -----
From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" <talks@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:03 AM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks


Eleanor,

That's correct, whilst Talks continues to work, minus the ability
to move the license again, WFA can only function on one handset at
a time.

But they don't charge to move from phone to phone.



Neil Barnfather
WFA List Administrator
Talks Users Host

Don't forget TalkNav which is a Nuance accessibility and Wayfinder
Access software dealer and distributor, for all your product needs
with instant product activation and an online store supporting
British Sterling, US Dollars and Euros.

www.talknav.net
+44 161 277 7997
service@xxxxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
Sent: 13 November 2008 10:01
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks

No deactivation of Talks there Scot from what Steve said.  He
explained that

very well about upgrading from phone A to B and B to C.  Have a
look at his
reply there again.  Steve has told me though that Wayfinder would
deactivate

from one phone to another if put on a second phone.

Eleanor
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott C" <castledine10@xxxxxxx>
To: "Talks List Talks List" <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:47 AM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks



Thanks mate.  So wen moving from B to C does talks stay on B or
deactivate?

 Thanks Scott.



-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Nutt - Email Address: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent On:
13/11/2008 09:38 Sent To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Email Address:
talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks

Hi Scott,

As many times as you like, but you can only use one phone per
upgrade. In
other words, you buy Phone A, you then use Phone A to upgrade to

Phone

B.
You can still use Phone B to upgrade to Phone C, but you can't use

Phone


A
to upgrade to Phone C.  So in other words, if you sell on Phone A,



the new
customer can't use it for an upgrade, if you have done so.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Scott C
Sent: Thursday 13 November 2008 09:37
To: Talks List Talks List
Subject: [talks-uk] moving talks

Hi folks.  How many times can talks be moved from one phone to
another?

I know it's £50 to move it over from one to another, but how many
times can I?

 Thanks Scott.





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