[talks-uk] Re: N97 and N86?

Hi Carol.

Firstly, although their website is horrible to navigate, if you go to the 
contact us page, give them a bell and explain what you want, they'll happily 
accept a printed note from you with your phone.  I had an E65 unbranded in this 
way, I put a covering note in with my £20 cash and sent it off.  I had my phone 
back two days later reformatted but with Nokia's own firmware.  Saved me a lot 
of hassle with unbranding software that was inaccessible.

All the best, Ibrahim.


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Carol Pearson 
  To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 9:43 AM
  Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N97 and N86?


  Ibrahim,

  That looks a useful shop for sure!  Have you used their services at all and 
therefore can recommend personally?

  --
  Carol
  carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

  ---- Original Message ----
  From: Ibrahim Gucukoglu
  To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 6:14 PM
  Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N97 and N86?

  > Hi Paul.
  > 
  > www.fonefunshop.co.uk do a service for £20 including
  > return post where they will unbrand your phone and put
  > the original Nokia firmware on it for you.  The procedure
  > isn't complex and I believe for an additional £20 they'll
  > even unlock it for you which does require specific
  > equipment.     
  > 
  > All the best, Ibrahim.
  > 
  > 
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: All formats
  > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  > Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 4:59 PM
  > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N97 and N86?
  > 
  > 
  > Hi Ibrahim
  > 
  > I would never have considered it in the past but, am
  > doing so now. 
  > 
  > Where would I find such a shop?  Market presumably?
  > 
  > Thanks.
  > 
  > Paul
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  > [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
  > Ibrahim Gucukoglu  
  > Sent: 14 May 2009 16:27
  > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N97 and N86?
  > 
  > 
  > Hi Paul.
  > 
  > You can always rebrand the phone.  It doesn't unlock it
  > but it will get you the original Nokia software.  You can
  > either do this yourself (very tricky I understand if you
  > can't see) or have it done for you by a specialist phone
  > shop.    
  > 
  > All the best, Ibrahim.
  > 
  > 
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: All formats
  > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  > Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 4:12 PM
  > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N97 and N86?
  > 
  > 
  > I know SIM free is always best but, if you can't afford
  > to buy the phone outright then you have to go for
  > contracted phones.  
  > 
  > It didn't matter a few years ago because you didn't get
  > firmware updates in the first place. 
  > 
  > I think the next time I get a contract phone, I'll make
  > them sign an agreement with me <smiles>! 
  > 
  > I'll just have to keep on to Vodafone and make the
  > officially respond. 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  > [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve
  > Nutt  
  > Sent: 14 May 2009 15:42
  > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N97 and N86?
  > 
  > 
  > Hi Paul,
  > 
  > Or not, in the case of some phones. There is a firmware
  > 31 for the N82 for example, and none of the operators to
  > my knowledge have released it. And they won't now,
  > because it is discontinued.  Sim-free is always best.   
  > 
  > All the best
  > 
  > Steve
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  > [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of All
  > formats  
  > Sent: Thursday 14 May 2009 15:31
  > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N97 and N86?
  > 
  > I don't think the unlocking of the phone has anything to
  > do with the performance or what works and doesn't on the
  > phone... In fact, I would be quite sure of that.  
  > 
  > The reason you can't update firmware on the Vodafone or
  > any other branded phones is the same as it was which is
  > that the networks decide what bits they want adding or
  > taking away from the firmware release then the phone
  > manufacturer goes back, makes the changes and at some
  > point in the distant future, the customer finally gets
  > the update relased.      
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  > [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
  > ELEANOR BURKE  
  > Sent: 14 May 2009 15:14
  > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N97 and N86?
  > Vodafone now have their contract phones unlocked but of
  > curse they are branded.  I am of the opinion (and maybe
  > Barbra is too, I do not know) but if a branded phone is
  > thenunlocked its functionality is not quite the same as
  > prior to the unlocking.    
  > 
  > Eleanor
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: Barbara Wilson
  > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  > Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 2:48 PM
  > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N97 and N86?
  > 
  > Steve, I do agree that the N79 is a lovely phone and
  > works excellently with TALKS. I just got put off with my
  > faulty one, or more precisely which Nokia messing me
  > around with it. Also, after they sent it back it had
  > problems it didn't have when they got it.    
  > 
  > Mat, I know people who have used the N85, so it works
  > okay with TALKS. 
  > 
  > I too always get phones SIM-Free as I don't like
  > unlocking. 
  > 
  > Find me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/barkingbabs
  > Barbara Wilson
  > M: 07917710779
  > T: 02887784046
  > E: barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  > IM: creativeeyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  > Skype: creativeeyes
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: Steve Nutt
  > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  > Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 2:40 PM
  > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: N97 and N86?
  > 
  > Hi Matt,
  > 
  > The N97 won't be supported not only because it is touch,
  > but because it is Symbian Fifth Edition, not Third. Fifth
  > will only be supported when there are more than one or
  > two phones that use it I would imagine.   
  > 
  > The N79 is a lovely phone. I know Barbara will disagree,
  > but I have had mine a week and it is great. Wifi works
  > fine on my one.  
  > 
  > N86 is going to be a good phone when it is out, but if
  > you depend on operators, you may be unlucky. 
  > 
  > I always say the best way to buy a phone is Sim-Free.
  > Then it is unbranded, and not tampered with by the
  > operator. Expensive yes, but you usually get a better
  > phone.   
  > 
  > Having said that, I got my N79 with T-Mobile, simply
  > because they offered it to me for free. 
  > 
  > All the best
  > 
  > Steve
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  > [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Matt
  > Brown  
  > Sent: Thursday 14 May 2009 14:27
  > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  > Subject: [talks-uk] N97 and N86?
  > 
  > Hi, I've just checked with T-mobile in the UK and they
  > aren't going to be getting the N86 sadly. It also doesn't
  > look as if they'll be getting the N97.  
  > 
  > I still can't decide which phone to get! Someone said
  > that the N85 is also compatible with Talks but it isn't
  > in the list of phones published by Nuance.  
  > 
  > I only hope the N86 will be because the list of
  > accessible phones that are new or current is getting
  > thinner, has anyone else noticed that? I know Nokia are
  > bringing out more touch-screen phones, and obviously
  > they're out for us, but there isn't really a sensible
  > alternative to Talks on a Nokia. The Windows based phones
  > crash all the time, and the Mobile Speak system isn't the
  > best in the World, what are we going to do?       
  > 
  > I hear that the N97 is unlikely to be supported by Nuance
  > because it integrates a touch screen as well, but
  > according to Nokia the phone is completely accessible via
  > the qwerty keyboard so the touch screen isn't necessary.
  > I wonder if Nuance will rethink that one.    
  > 
  > Just interested in what other people think. I had a look
  > at the E71 and absolutely hate it! The keyboard on it is
  > completely stupid!  
  > 
  > Matt
  > 
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