[talks-uk] Re: Help with N73 & BrailleRe: Re: RNIB Bashing!

  • From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 23:31:48 -0000

Hi Elaine,

Yes, I know you bought Kawal's Connect <Smile>.

Yes, it is very easy.  Just turn on Bluetooth, turn on the Connect and do a
search for it on the phone and pair it.  Pairing code is 0000.  You will
need the Talks driver for it though.  I'll dig that out and send it you over
the weekend.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Elaine
Sent: Friday 14 November 2008 21:09
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Help with N73 & BrailleRe: Re: RNIB Bashing!

Hiya Steve

Yeah? how about this one?

Is it easy to set up a N73 with Braille?

In particularly  a Vario Connect.

and, would you advise upgrading talks to latest version. cant for the life 
of me remember which one I currently have. *smiles*  Sorry...

Yes, I know, I was going to send it to you to have it upgraded any way, but 
well...every time I was going to send it to you, something happened and well

I found I needed it.

Thanks in anticipation

Elaine

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 7:28 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: RNIB Bashing!


Hi All,

I am not the mod, and I am not picking on you in particular Paul, but this
is getting Boring!  Can we talk about Tazlks please?  Plretty please?

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of All formats
Sent: Friday 14 November 2008 09:20
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: RNIB Bashing!

No, you need a watch that is so big it hardly fits your wrist, even if you
have big wrists!

And it has to look as if it has been built from a recycled stainless steel
sink!

And to complete the package, a larger than necessary round black speaker on
the top of the watch which builds the sound volume to something akin to a
screaming child at feeding time.

...It will fall apart anyway in no time so, don't worry, there will be
plenty of opportunity to buy another one.

...Louder rooster on mine please.

In fact, I miss that thing so much, I am gonna have to see if I can make a
ringtone!

...So, off to the local blind resource centre for me to record an RNIB watch
or two I think!

Paul Hopkins - Manager

(All Formats)



Queen Alexandra College

Court Oak Road

Harborne

BIRMINGHAM

B17 9TG



Tel:

0121 428 5018



Fax:

0121 428 5048



E-mail:

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-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Amro Bilal
Sent: 14 November 2008 00:26
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: RNIB Bashing!

I usually avoid I agree messages, but very well said, Matt.

Cheers,
Amro
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Brown" <matthew_brown@xxxxxxx>
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 11:33 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: RNIB Bashing!


I just can't understand why RNIB and various other commercial companies
haven't cottoned on to the idea that not all blind people are stereo-typical
dark glasses, white stick and nasty tacky plastic rooster touting talking
watch kind of people! None of the talking watches available are particularly
sexy to look at lets face it, especially not compared to watches for fully
sighted people, not even the metal ones.

I've seen some incredibly sexy rectangular face watches for fully sighteds
that just look like they're a continuation of the wrist strap, and something
like that would be really nice with a voice.

I know someone is bound to say that the components required to make a watch
talk are too bulky for such a design, but that's utter nonsense! The
components can be made to fit a much smaller housing than the talking watch
housings currently available.

Matt

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darren Harris" <darren_g_harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 5:09 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: RNIB Bashing!


Oh you mean that stupid excuse for a mobile phone, that is so
rediculously expensive, so revolutionary that you can't even text
properly on it? I looked at one and all I wanted to do when I saw it was
to put my foot through it. What a peace of junk of I ever did see one!

-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
Sent: 13 November 2008 17:06
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: RNIB Bashing!


OMG yes I had forgotten about those.

Eleanor
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Barbara Wilson" <barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 5:00 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: RNIB Bashing!


> Hmm, that rooster really gets on my nerves. Still, guess it's not
> quite as
> bad as the farmyard animals on their mobile phone!
>
> Barbara
>
> Get listed, network or find a business at an online directory of
> businesses owned and run by disabled people and associated support and

> advisory organisations:
> www.barkingbabs.co.uk
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" <talks@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 4:50 PM
> Subject: [talks-uk] RNIB Bashing!
>
>
> Barbra,
>
> More to the point why do they insist on making the Alarms and clock
> announcements so dam noisy! We're blind not deaf after all!
>
>
>
> Neil Barnfather
> WFA List Administrator
> Talks Users Host
>
> Don't forget TalkNav which is a Nuance accessibility and Wayfinder
> Access software dealer and distributor, for all your product needs
> with instant product activation and an online store supporting British

> Sterling, US Dollars and Euros.
>
> www.talknav.net
> +44 161 277 7997
> service@xxxxxxxxxxx
> -----Original Message-----
> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Barbara Wilson
> Sent: 13 November 2008 12:53
> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks
>
> Probably playing with all those clocks they make. Someone asked me
> recently,
>
> why do RNIB feel the need to put a clock on ever damn product they
> produce?
>
> Barbara
>
> Get listed, network or find a business at an online directory of
> businesses
> owned and run by disabled people and associated support and advisory
> organisations:
> www.barkingbabs.co.uk
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:22 PM
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks
>
>
>> What are they doing is what I want to know.  If you want to speak to
>> Hi-Tech and have a demonstration of something that has to be on a
>> Thursday
>
>> here in London.  What are they doing the other 4 days because they
>> they
>> do
>
>> not always return my calls or if I ask them to e-mail me they do not.

>> I think they just sit in an office!!!!
>>
>> Eleanor
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Darren Harris" <darren_g_harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:16 PM
>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks
>>
>>
>> What the rnib? They're a bunch of prats who really haven't got a clue

>> at the end of the day.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of All formats
>> Sent: 13 November 2008 11:59
>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks
>>
>>
>> I should get used to them being around though.
>>
>> They are taking over everything it seems.
>>
>> Still, another list another discussion I guess!
>>
>> Paul Hopkins - Manager
>>
>> (All Formats)
>>
>>
>>
>> Queen Alexandra College
>>
>> Court Oak Road
>>
>> Harborne
>>
>> BIRMINGHAM
>>
>> B17 9TG
>>
>>
>>
>> Tel:
>>
>> 0121 428 5018
>>
>>
>>
>> Fax:
>>
>> 0121 428 5048
>>
>>
>>
>> E-mail:
>>
>> allformats@xxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>>
>> Web:
>>
>> www.allformats.org.uk
>>
>>
>>
>> Allformats - Braille, Audio, Digital and Large Print Resources for
>> Access by People with a Visual Impairment.
>>
>>
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
>> Sent: 13 November 2008 11:47
>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks
>>
>> Well I have always seen (for want of a better word) the RNIB as the
>> Auricle but now I am changing my mind.
>>
>> Eleanor
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Barbara Wilson" <barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 11:24 AM
>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks
>>
>>
>>> Hi Eleanor
>>>
>>> Don't ever be surprised that the RNIB know very little!
>>>
>>> Barbara
>>>
>>> Get listed, network or find a business at an online directory of
>>> businesses owned and run by disabled people and associated support
>>> and
>>
>>> advisory organisations:
>>> www.barkingbabs.co.uk
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:19 AM
>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks
>>>
>>>
>>>> Neil
>>>> Thank you for that.  I am a bit fed up at present, want to buy the
>>>> Wayfinder, got one price from RNIB, another at Sight Village from
>>>> the
>>
>>>> Company and another from Computer Room Services.  Now I am not
>>>> complaining about any of these Agents for the product but the
>> cheapest
>>>> price came at Sight Village here in London and they did not say it
>> was
>>>> for the day only. I thought I had time to go away and think about
>>>> it.
>>
>>>> Now I am not going to purchase it.
>>>>
>>>> In fact it was only when I asked Steve or someone on the Access
>>>> list a question about upgrading Talks that a person at RNIB who had

>>>> told me
>> I
>>>> could not upgrade then said it was news to her that I could upgrade
>> from
>>>> Vodafone Talks to Premium Talks on another phone for £50.00.  That
>> from
>>>> RNIB Hi-Tech!
>>>>
>>>> Eleanor
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" <talks@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:03 AM
>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Eleanor,
>>>>
>>>> That's correct, whilst Talks continues to work, minus the ability
>>>> to move the license again, WFA can only function on one handset at
>>>> a time.
>>>>
>>>> But they don't charge to move from phone to phone.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Neil Barnfather
>>>> WFA List Administrator
>>>> Talks Users Host
>>>>
>>>> Don't forget TalkNav which is a Nuance accessibility and Wayfinder
>>>> Access software dealer and distributor, for all your product needs
>>>> with instant product activation and an online store supporting
>>>> British Sterling, US Dollars and Euros.
>>>>
>>>> www.talknav.net
>>>> +44 161 277 7997
>>>> service@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>> On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
>>>> Sent: 13 November 2008 10:01
>>>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks
>>>>
>>>> No deactivation of Talks there Scot from what Steve said.  He
>>>> explained that
>>>>
>>>> very well about upgrading from phone A to B and B to C.  Have a
>>>> look at his
>>>> reply there again.  Steve has told me though that Wayfinder would
>>>> deactivate
>>>>
>>>> from one phone to another if put on a second phone.
>>>>
>>>> Eleanor
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Scott C" <castledine10@xxxxxxx>
>>>> To: "Talks List Talks List" <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:47 AM
>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks mate.  So wen moving from B to C does talks stay on B or
>>>>> deactivate?
>>>>>
>>>>>  Thanks Scott.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Steve Nutt - Email Address: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent On:
>>>>> 13/11/2008 09:38 Sent To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Email Address:
>>>>> talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Scott,
>>>>>
>>>>> As many times as you like, but you can only use one phone per
>>>>> upgrade. In
>>>>> other words, you buy Phone A, you then use Phone A to upgrade to
>> Phone
>>>>> B.
>>>>> You can still use Phone B to upgrade to Phone C, but you can't use
>> Phone
>>
>>>>> A
>>>>> to upgrade to Phone C.  So in other words, if you sell on Phone A,

>>>>> the new
>>>>> customer can't use it for an upgrade, if you have done so.
>>>>>
>>>>> All the best
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Scott C
>>>>> Sent: Thursday 13 November 2008 09:37
>>>>> To: Talks List Talks List
>>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] moving talks
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi folks.  How many times can talks be moved from one phone to
>>>>> another?
>>>>>
>>>>> I know it's £50 to move it over from one to another, but how many
>>>>> times can I?
>>>>>
>>>>>  Thanks Scott.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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