Hi Charles, Well, I don't own any of them, and am not in a position to offer more than general info. I'm writing my own laptop GPS nav system as a hobby though, and will let everyone know when it's ready (if ever). I'd say Liz, because her lab is likely to own one of each, and Robert because he sells them, are likely to know more about the accessible offerings. Having warned you, you have 3 choices which you can think about: if you have a smart phone already, I'm guessing one of the systems for the phones (google on Geo Mobile or WayFinder for instance), is likely to be the cheapest. I would buy an external bluetooth gps receiver, as the ones built-into phones are known for not being as sensitive or as accurate. if you don't own a phone, or you get some other advice that says they're hard to use or something, then next would be the Trekker, and about the same price if you own a note taker already, then one of the Sendero add-ons for note takers (I think it's available for the GW note taker, the humanware one, and I think one from FS as well). If you don't own the note taker, and you were wanting one anyway, then this could be your reason to get it. but if you don't own one, and aren't going to buy one, then the Trekker is what's left. I have the vague feeling that the trekker and the phone-based ones aren't as easy to use as the note-taker based ones. One of the phone-based systems, WayFinder Access, isn't from Sendero, and doesn't get nearly as good feedback about it. I think every other offering may be from Sendero except for the Trekker. I'm pretty sure Access World and such like publications have done a round-up review of them all by now. I'll see if I can find a link and post it here. hth, Chip -----Original Message----- From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Charles Atkins Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 8:31 PM To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tabi] Re: to all GPS users Chip, which one of those would be the most economically sound investment you've found? Thanks! Charles ----- Original Message ----- From: Chip Orange <mailto:Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 4:47 PM Subject: [tabi] to all GPS users Hi al, I have spent a small amount of time on my project to create gps databases of Tallahassee locations. I didn't spend much because I didn't hear back from any GPS owner except Robert, even though I know several people who own them. In any case, what I've turned up in my brief search is a GPS database of the FSU campus, it's buildings, with each entrance indicated separately, it's bus stops (and the routes indicated which make use of that stop), and the businesses located in and around campus. Also, the C.K. Steel plaza and it's various gates is listed in this database. I've found a separate database of all the street intersections in and around Leon County. I'm not sure how useful this one will be, as I'd expect any GPS nav system (other than Loadstone) to be able to tell you this information from it's map data. Unfortunately, I didn't turn up any city bus data, and didn't get any response from the StarMetro email address I had when I wrote them and asked about it. I was wondering if TCB or NFB had someone who interfaced with StarMetro, and if so, would you be willing to ask them about route and stop GPS data? I also have access to a huge database of points of interest, broken down by category, if there's something in particular (such as ATM locations for instance), that people would feel to be particularly useful. I'd have to write a program to create such a list, but I'd be willing to upon request. so, I'll ask once again, any GPS users out there interested in what I've found, or even better, interested in mapping bus stops or other places you go and sending me the coordinants? How about the O&M instructors at the lighthouse or DBS, would you be willing to take the GPS units along on lessons and send me the resulting points you've marked? I'd like to be able to compile these into formats loadable by whatever systems we have here in town, and put them on the TABI resource page for downloading. so, please let me hear from you, what type of system you use, and whether you want anything I've mentioned or would be willing to contribute points. thanks. Chip ------------------------------ Chip Orange Database Administrator Florida Public Service Commission Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (850) 413-6314 (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.) Check out the TABI resource web page at http://acorange.home.comcast.net/TABI to unsubscribe send a message, containing a subject line of the word unsubscribe, to tabi-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx if you'd like to unsubscribe you can do so through the freelists.org web interface, or by sending an email to the address tabi-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject.