[tabi] Re: smokers: the next group not hired

  • From: "Easy Talk" <Easytalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 08:36:34 -0500

Supposedly that is what all the tax increase by Florida was suppose to do so your theory would be double taxation. I can drive to Georgia and by cigarettes 20 dollars cheaper than in Florida. If there going to do this with cigarettes then how about alcohol, Then none or very few would be working. And just for fun while we are at it, let's throw in all people who go to Burger King at lunch and pass gas when they get back to work. How to you ban something that is legal.


Robert



----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Evans" <austin.evans60@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 9:00 PM
Subject: [tabi] Re: smokers: the next group not hired



why not hire the smokers with the understanding that they will be paying extra in health insurance. Then again the people who are over weight will be treated the same way. They are going after the people with the unhealthy lifestyles what ever that is.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Norine Labitzke" <norine@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 6:39 PM
Subject: [tabi] Re: smokers: the next group not hired


Interesting.  Norine

-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Sila Miller
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 3:52 PM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: smokers: the next group not hired

What is this world coming to? Is this America? I guess that since, for the
most part, the ADA protects blind people they can't blatantly pick on us
anymore? Until we begin to risk radicalism we're going to just have to
swallow...
So many battles that need to be fought and so few people who are sick and
tired to fight them... What a crock...
No, I'm not a smoker but smokers sure do pay their share of taxes which
benefit us all!
Fed up and disgusted,
Sila

----- Original Message ----- From: "Allison and Chip Orange" <acorange@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 8:25 PM
Subject: [tabi] smokers: the next group not hired


Below is an article run in news papers across the country today.  I'm
wondering if non-smokers are cheaper as employees, then who else might be
cheaper?  non-disabled employees?  Employees who aren't over-weight?  I
certainly hope this doesn't turn out to be legal.

Chip

----------


Workplaces ban not only smoking, but smokers themselves
By Wendy Koch, USA TODAY

Twenty-nine states and the District of Columbia have laws that protect
smokers' rights

More job-seekers are facing an added requirement: no smoking - at work or
anytime.
An increasing number of employers won't hire applicants whose urine tests
positive for nicotine use, whether from cigarettes, smokeless tobacco or
even patches.

An increasing number of employers won't hire applicants whose urine tests
positive
for nicotine use, whether from cigarettes, smokeless tobacco or even
patches.
As bans on smoking sweep the
USA
, an increasing number of employers - primarily hospitals - are also
imposing bans
on smokers. They won't hire applicants whose urine tests positive for
nicotine use,
whether cigarettes, smokeless tobacco or even patches.
Such tobacco-free hiring policies, designed to promote health and reduce
insurance
premiums, took effect this month at the Baylor Health Care System in Texas
and will
apply at the Hollywood Casino in Toledo, Ohio, when it opens this year.
STORY:
Humana won't hire smokers in Arizona
"We have to walk the walk if we talk the talk," says Dave Fotsch of
Idaho's
Central
District Health Department, which voted last month to stop hiring smokers.
Each year, smoking or exposure to secondhand smoke causes 443,000
premature
deaths
and costs the nation $193 billion in health bills and lost productivity,
according
to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The
CDC
says 19.3% of
U.S.
adults smoked last year, down from 42.4% in 1965.
"We're trying to promote a complete culture of wellness," says Marcy
Marshall of
the Geisinger Health System in Danville, Pa., which begins its
nicotine-free
hiring
next month. "We're not denying smokers their right to tobacco products.
We're just
choosing not to hire them."
The policies stir outrage, even in the public health community.
"These policies represent employment discrimination. It's a very dangerous
precedent,"
says Michael Siegel, a professor at Boston University's School of Public
Health.
He says the restrictions punish smokers rather than helping them quit.
"What's next? Are you not going to hire overly-caffeinated people?" asks
Nate Shelman,
a smoker and Boise's KBOI radio talk show host whose listeners debated the
topic
last month. "I'm tired of people seeing smokers as an easy piñata."
After several companies, including
Alaska Airlines
, adopted smoker-hiring bans a couple of decades ago, the tobacco industry
and the
American Civil Liberties Union
lobbied for smoker rights. As a result, 29 states and the
District of Columbia
passed smoker-protection laws.
Some laws exempt non-profit groups and the health care industry, and 21
states have
no rules against nicotine-free hiring.
Federal laws allow nicotine-free hiring because they don't recognize
smokers
as a
protected class, says Chris Kuzynski with the U.S. Equal Employment
Opportunity Commission.
There's no data on how many U.S. businesses won't hire smokers, but the
trend appears
strongest with hospitals, says Lewis Maltby, president of the National
Workrights
Institute, a non-profit offshoot of the
ACLU
that opposes the hiring bans.
Many of the new policies expand on smoke-free workplace rules. At Bon
Secours Virginia
Health System, more than 300 employees have kicked the habit since its
campuses went
smoke-free in 2009, and one applicant did so since it began nicotine-free
hiring
Nov. 30, says administrative director Kim Coleman.
The bottom line will benefit because health care costs for tobacco users
are
$3,000
to $4,000 more each year than for non-smokers, says Bon Secours' Cindy
Stutts. "There's
also an impact on productivity," she says, because smokers take more
breaks.
Paul Billings of the American Lung Association says he's seen no data that
prove
nicotine-free hiring gets people to quit. He says cessation programs are a
better
bet. Still, his group won't hire smokers: "We're non-smoking exemplars."

Check out the TABI resource web page at
http://acorange.home.comcast.net/TABI
and please make suggestions for new material.



if you'd like to unsubscribe you can do so through the freelists.org web
interface, or by sending an email to the address
tabi-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject.

Check out the TABI resource web page at
http://acorange.home.comcast.net/TABI
and please make suggestions for new material.



if you'd like to unsubscribe you can do so through the freelists.org web
interface, or by sending an email to the address tabi-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject.

Check out the TABI resource web page at http://acorange.home.comcast.net/TABI
and please make suggestions for new material.



if you'd like to unsubscribe you can do so through the freelists.org web interface, or by sending an email to the address tabi-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject.

Check out the TABI resource web page at http://acorange.home.comcast.net/TABI
and please make suggestions for new material.



if you'd like to unsubscribe you can do so through the freelists.org web interface, or by sending an email to the address tabi-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject.

Check out the TABI resource web page at http://acorange.home.comcast.net/TABI
and please make suggestions for new material.



if you'd like to unsubscribe you can do so through the freelists.org web interface, or by 
sending an email to the address tabi-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word 
"unsubscribe" in the subject.

Other related posts: