Jim, I've been a Window-Eyes user from way back (ever since I switched away from jaws many years ago), so that is likely to give you my answer already. While NVDA and WE version 9 are about equal in web reading abilities, there's no doubt Window-Eyes does more with other Windows programs than NVDA does; they just haven't had the time nor the man power to make all the special-case exceptions needed by all these other popular programs. The specific programs you mention, I just don't know to do a direct comparison for each between the two screen readers, but I believe WE has had a lot of ThunderBird enhancements done for it with version 9. As for Windows Live Mail, rumor is nobody supports it all that well, but I know WE users are using it. You will have Outlook I believe as part of your Office, so you can always use it (and there's plenty of help and tutorials and books on using Outlook, I'm an outlook user, and WE has its own mailing list where you can post any questions you have; many messages are about use of Outlook). They actually have 3 separate email lists for support, depending on what your question is regarding, and WE staff and volunteers monitor all of them. Which reminds me of the other big difference; WE has a full-time support department, which you can call or email for free support any time. NVDA does not (they do have some volunteers who will answer what they can when they have time, it's not the same). Hth, Chip -----Original Message----- From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of K4NKZ JIM Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 8:52 PM To: tabi Subject: [tabi] question Window-Eyes or NVDA hi everybody, I am a jaws user from way back! I have 1 more upgrade already payed for! but after that my money is too tite! so I am going to have to pick between:Window-Eyes or NVDA! the question I have is: which screenreader would you pick? computer information below: 1, I am running windows 8.1 on a laptop with a full size keybord. 2, I already have office 2010 pro so that will let me use Window-Eyes free office version! 3, using Firefox and thunderbird 4, mite start using windows live mail 5, using the SendSpace Wizard 6, also using Skype 7, Sound Forge andGoldWave 8, games question: so which one would you pick? -- Have a nice day from, K4NKZ Jim Check out the TABI resource web page at http://home.comcast.net/~acorange/TABI and please make suggestions for new material. If you find something out-of-date, and you'd like it to be updated, please let the list owner know. Without comments as to what is helpful, and what should be included on the TABI resources page, it's unlikely that any volunteer work will occur. if you'd like to unsubscribe you can do so through the freelists.org web interface, or by sending an email to the address tabi-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject. Check out the TABI resource web page at http://home.comcast.net/~acorange/TABI and please make suggestions for new material. If you find something out-of-date, and you'd like it to be updated, please let the list owner know. Without comments as to what is helpful, and what should be included on the TABI resources page, it's unlikely that any volunteer work will occur. if you'd like to unsubscribe you can do so through the freelists.org web interface, or by sending an email to the address tabi-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject.