[tabi] Re: online voice chat and accessible meeting freeware

  • From: "Allison and Chip Orange" <acorange@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:23:43 -0500

Hi all,

Success!!!

Governor and I were just on, and conferencing away!

the quality was amazingly good, and we just used the default of having the
microphone constantly active and triggered by voice, and so we were able to
talk, both at the same time, as if we were on a telephone call.

Cool!!!

Chip
 

-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of governor staten
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 6:32 PM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: online voice chat and accessible meeting freeware

what the person you quoted said about finer control over everything with
teamtalk is true. I've used skype before many times, and it is full-duplex.
I haven't yet used teamtalk, but, i plan to be on tonight to see what i
think. one thing's for sure, the classic client isn't messy at all. no
scripts are needed with jaws to do basic things.


On 12/21/2009 5:12 PM, Chip Orange wrote:
> And one more quote, which really is quite convincing me to stay with
> TeamTalk:
>
> "
> * TeamTalk has much better voice quality due to it using a superior 
> voice codec.
>
> * It allows better control for the server admin over the participants 
> of a chat.
>
> * It allows private conferences for server admins for 
> behind-the-scenes organization.
>
> * It doesn't use as much computer memory or CPU power.
>
> * It has file storage capabilities, and stores files
> on the computer hosting the TeamTalk server.   This means that if you
> want to send files to group members, you simply upload them to the 
> server, rather than sending files to individual users.
>
> * you don't' need to manually approve new requests to join the 
> conference.
>
> * You can easily record conferences directly from the application.
>
> * It has an easy-to-use public chat feature, as well as private 
> messaging.
>
> * You can stream wave files to the members of the conference.
> --
> James Scholes
> --"
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Chip Orange
> Database Administrator
> Florida Public Service Commission
>
> Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> (850) 413-6314
>
>   (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not 
> necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.)
>
>
>    
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
>> Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 5:01 PM
>> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [tabi] Re: online voice chat and accessible meeting freeware
>>
>> William,
>>
>> here's the first comment I received, when someone suggested Skype to 
>> me:
>>
>> "Or, you could use some more modern software with much better audio 
>> quality. TeamTalk v4 classic, and Fideliphone all have superb audio 
>> quality, using the high quality CELT codec."
>>
>> I'm trying to get this person to elaborate further on what makes 
>> TeamTalk "more modern".  I will mention that TeamTalk and it's 
>> accessible version were just mentioned in the top tech tidbits news 
>> letter as well.
>>
>>
>> Chip
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Chip Orange
>> Database Administrator
>> Florida Public Service Commission
>>
>> Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> (850) 413-6314
>>
>>   (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not 
>> necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.)
>>
>>
>>      
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of blindwilly
>>> Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 9:49 AM
>>> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [tabi] Re: online voice chat and accessible
>>>        
>> meeting freeware
>>      
>>> Chip,
>>>
>>> Would scype work:  it sounds like the same.
>>>
>>> William
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Denyece Roberts msw"<peace05@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
>>> To:<tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 8:32 AM
>>> Subject: [tabi] Re: online voice chat and accessible
>>>        
>> meeting freeware
>>      
>>>
>>>        
>>>> Well now! I don't feel bad.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Easy Talk"<easytalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To:<tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 5:17 AM
>>>> Subject: [tabi] Re: online voice chat and accessible
>>>>          
>>> meeting freeware
>>>        
>>>>
>>>>          
>>>>> Chip,  We don't sell any with built in microphone except
>>>>>            
>>> the Bluetooth
>>>        
>>>>> ones. I have downloaded and installed the software but so
>>>>>            
>>> far I haven't
>>>        
>>>>> figured out how to select a server and connect.
>>>>>
>>>>> Robert
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Allison and Chip Orange"<acorange@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
>>>>> To:<tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 5:40 PM
>>>>> Subject: [tabi] Re: online voice chat and accessible
>>>>>            
>>> meeting freeware
>>>        
>>>>>
>>>>>            
>>>>>> Hi Yvonne,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> yes, it seems to be compatible with all major screen readers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> as for what it does: it lets you put on a headset with a
>>>>>>              
>>> microphone, and
>>>        
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> part of an online conference, or meeting, or chat.  if
>>>>>>              
>>> you have a webcam
>>>        
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> can actually see the other people as well as talk and
>>>>>>              
>>> listen to them.
>>>        
>>>>>> what's unusual about the way it handles voice is that
>>>>>>              
>>> many people can
>>>        
>>>>>> talk
>>>>>> at the same time; that means you don't have to wait for
>>>>>>              
>>> the other person
>>>        
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> stop talking, before you can ask a question or say
>>>>>>              
>>> something.  if you
>>>        
>>>>>> want
>>>>>> them to know you didn't understand what they just said,
>>>>>>              
>>> you can actually
>>>        
>>>>>> say
>>>>>> it right away.  that's called "full duplex" sound, and we
>>>>>>              
>>> usually only
>>>        
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> it on a telephone conference call, but this software,
>>>>>>              
>>> TeamTalk, has it.
>>>        
>>>>>> if there's a conference, and you don't own a microphone,
>>>>>>              
>>> you can still
>>>        
>>>>>> join
>>>>>> in and listen, and if you have a question, you can type
>>>>>>              
>>> it in in the
>>>        
>>>>>> text
>>>>>> message box of TeamTalk (which I may call "the client"
>>>>>>              
>> sometimes).
>>      
>>>>>> if you or anyone else has a file you'd like everyone to
>>>>>>              
>>> be able to have,
>>>        
>>>>>> there's a place where the person with the file can "share
>>>>>>              
>>> it", and that
>>>        
>>>>>> allows everyone else to download if they want.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I haven't used TeamTalk myself, but when I asked others
>>>>>>              
>>> who have a lot
>>>        
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> experience with this kind of software what I should use
>>>>>>              
>>> to go about
>>>        
>>>>>> holding
>>>>>> group classes or meetings, where people could speak using
>>>>>>              
>>> "full duplex",
>>>        
>>>>>> TeamTalk is what was recommended the most.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think it's very important to have full duplex, as it
>>>>>>              
>>> allows people to
>>>        
>>>>>> quickly indicate, while everyone is thinking about the
>>>>>>              
>>> point, that they
>>>        
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> a question or a disagreement.  it allows for much more natural 
>>>>>> conversational flow.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and TeamTalk has no limit on how many users may
>>>>>>              
>>> participate at once, and
>>>        
>>>>>> it's free!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> so, if we can get it to work, we'll have a great tool for
>>>>>>              
>>> learning from
>>>        
>>>>>> one
>>>>>> another, and for just getting together to talk to one another.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> blind people are very socially isolated as compared to
>>>>>>              
>>> sighted people,
>>>        
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> it's because of the transportation issue.  I hate it that
>>>>>>              
>>> we can't just
>>>        
>>>>>> open
>>>>>> up TABI for a free-for-all chat to help with this issue,
>>>>>>              
>>> but we can't,
>>>        
>>>>>> so
>>>>>> something like this is the obvious solution.  and,
>>>>>>              
>> while buying a
>>      
>>>>>> headset
>>>>>> can cost $50, it's much more relaxing and enjoyable to be
>>>>>>              
>>> able to talk
>>>        
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> your friends than to type to them.  and there aren't
>>>>>>              
>>> nearly so many
>>>        
>>>>>> emotional misunderstandings, which can so easily creep in
>>>>>>              
>>> to an email
>>>        
>>>>>> conversation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can't tell you how many times I've gotten angry, or
>>>>>>              
>>> made someone else
>>>        
>>>>>> angry, needlessly, because the emotional content of what
>>>>>>              
>>> they or I was
>>>        
>>>>>> trying to say got lost.  and so, an effort to help one
>>>>>>              
>>> another turned
>>>        
>>>>>> into
>>>>>> an argument unnecessarily.  I think hearing the other
>>>>>>              
>>> person's voice
>>>        
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> keep all that kind of thing from happening.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> so, please, everyone give it a try; buy a headset if you
>>>>>>              
>>> can (Robert, do
>>>        
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> have ideas, or do you sell headsets?).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I bought mine from emicrophones.com because the owner
>>>>>>              
>>> helped me pick out
>>>        
>>>>>> something which plugged into my audio card rather than
>>>>>>              
>>> being a usb
>>>        
>>>>>> headset,
>>>>>> and wasn't that expensive.  it's a good site if you want
>>>>>>              
>>> help in picking
>>>        
>>>>>> something out, and he carries a huge variety of headsets.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> don't forget, if you own a headset for a cell phone, such
>>>>>>              
>>> as a bluetooth
>>>        
>>>>>> headset, and you have bluetooth on your pc, that should
>>>>>>              
>>> work fine.
>>>        
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> are adapters you can buy for the plugs on a phone headset
>>>>>>              
>>> to allow you
>>>        
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> plug it into the pc audio card.  and of course, you
>>>>>>              
>> don't need a
>>      
>>>>>> headset; if
>>>>>> you have earphones and a microphone that should work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hth,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chip
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>              
>>> [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>        
>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of Yvonne Britton
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 3:49 PM
>>>>>> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Subject: [tabi] Re: online voice chat and accessible
>>>>>>              
>>> meeting freeware
>>>        
>>>>>> Hi, Chip
>>>>>> A lot of the technical terms I don't understand but I
>>>>>>              
>>> wanted to  know if
>>>        
>>>>>> this software is compatible with J. A. W. S. and System
>>>>>>              
>>> Access? And
>>>        
>>>>>> could
>>>>>> tell which download I am suppose to do. A lot of the
>>>>>>              
>>> technical words I
>>>        
>>>>>> don't
>>>>>> understand so if you can explain it where I can better
>>>>>>              
>>> understand I
>>>        
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> appreciate I am sure I am not the only who can not some
>>>>>>              
>>> of these things.
>>>        
>>>>>> Yvonne
>>>>>> GOD LOVES YOU AND SO DO I!!!
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Allison and Chip Orange"<acorange@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
>>>>>> To:<tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 1:33 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [tabi] online voice chat and accessible
>>>>>>              
>> meeting freeware
>>      
>>>>>>
>>>>>>              
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> this message is about a new freeware software package, with a 
>>>>>>> specially designed accessible version, for holding
>>>>>>>                
>>> online meetings and
>>>        
>>>>>>> audio/video chats.  the software is TeamTalk version
>>>>>>>                
>> 4, and their
>>      
>>>>>>> special accessible version download page is:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                
>>>        
>> http://bearware.dk/index.php?section=products&pageid=tt4accessibility
>> #
>>      
>>>>>>> hdrmen
>>>>>>> u
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> it allows full duplex chatting (that is like a phone
>>>>>>>                
>>> conference call
>>>        
>>>>>>> where one person can interrupt another, without having
>>>>>>>                
>> to push a
>>      
>>>>>>> button to talk).
>>>>>>> it also allows the use of web-cams, so sighted users can
>>>>>>>                
>>> have a video
>>>        
>>>>>>> chat.
>>>>>>> and finally, it allows file sharing among conference members.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm wondering about holding a TABI series of chats or
>>>>>>>                
>>> classes, if we
>>>        
>>>>>>> can get enough people to download and install TeamTalk.
>>>>>>>                
>>> if you don't
>>>        
>>>>>>> have a microphone, then you can stil listen to a
>>>>>>>                
>>> meeting, and type
>>>        
>>>>>>> your questions via the text message feature of the client.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> so everyone, as time allows, please download and install
>>>>>>>                
>>> TeamTalk, and
>>>        
>>>>>>> read a little of the help.  and start thinking what
>>>>>>>                
>>> topics we might
>>>        
>>>>>>> use to build an online meeting around:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> are their computer topics you'd like someone to teach
>>>>>>>                
>>> more about?  how
>>>        
>>>>>>> to improve your finances and money situation?  argue
>>>>>>>                
>> out the star
>>      
>>>>>>> metro situation?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are there topics you'd like to offer to teach/organize?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> anyone can request, or be the organizer, of any online
>>>>>>>                
>>> meeting, and we
>>>        
>>>>>>> don't have to arrange transportation!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> enjoy,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chip
>>>>>>>
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