[tabi] Re: online voice chat and accessible meeting freeware

  • From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 15:11:29 -0500

I have one more question in on the blind technology news group to
clarify the differences between TeamTalk and Skype; but at the time,
everyone felt the voice quality was much better with TeamTalk.

I'm asking them to reaffirm this opinion, and give any others as to the
differences.

Chip





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Chip Orange
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Florida Public Service Commission

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Charles Atkins
> Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 12:20 PM
> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [tabi] Re: online voice chat and accessible meeting freeware
> 
> Sounds exciting!
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Allison and Chip Orange" <acorange@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 10:10 AM
> Subject: [tabi] Re: online voice chat and accessible meeting freeware
> 
> 
> > Hi William,
> >
> > everyone who knows them both, on the blind technology news 
> group, says
> > TeamTalk is *much* better, with much better voice quality.  
> I'm not sure
> > Skype has the full duplex mode anyway, but TeamTalk was the one 
> > recommended.
> > It also has the file transfer ability, and video for those 
> who can see, 
> > but
> > I think it's the voice quality that gets it recommended.
> >
> > I just went online and was part of a voice conference, and 
> I have to say
> > it's dead easy; including the nice "voice activated" mode, 
> where you just
> > talk, like you do on a phone, without having to push 
> anything, if you're 
> > in
> > a quiet room.  there's even a feature where it will 
> simulate a "location"
> > for each voice, using 3d stereo sound, so it sounds like 
> people are in a
> > room around you in different places.  don't know how useful 
> that is, we'll
> > see.
> >
> > Chip
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> > Behalf
> > Of blindwilly
> > Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 9:49 AM
> > To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [tabi] Re: online voice chat and accessible 
> meeting freeware
> >
> > Chip,
> >
> > Would scype work:  it sounds like the same.
> >
> > William
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Denyece Roberts msw" <peace05@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 8:32 AM
> > Subject: [tabi] Re: online voice chat and accessible 
> meeting freeware
> >
> >
> >> Well now! I don't feel bad.
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Easy Talk" <easytalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 5:17 AM
> >> Subject: [tabi] Re: online voice chat and accessible 
> meeting freeware
> >>
> >>
> >>> Chip,  We don't sell any with built in microphone except 
> the Bluetooth
> >>> ones. I have downloaded and installed the software but so 
> far I haven't
> >>> figured out how to select a server and connect.
> >>>
> >>> Robert
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>> From: "Allison and Chip Orange" <acorange@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 5:40 PM
> >>> Subject: [tabi] Re: online voice chat and accessible 
> meeting freeware
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Hi Yvonne,
> >>>>
> >>>> yes, it seems to be compatible with all major screen readers.
> >>>>
> >>>> as for what it does: it lets you put on a headset with a 
> microphone, 
> >>>> and
> >
> >>>> be
> >>>> part of an online conference, or meeting, or chat.  if 
> you have a 
> >>>> webcam
> >
> >>>> you
> >>>> can actually see the other people as well as talk and 
> listen to them.
> >>>>
> >>>> what's unusual about the way it handles voice is that 
> many people can
> >>>> talk
> >>>> at the same time; that means you don't have to wait for 
> the other 
> >>>> person
> >
> >>>> to
> >>>> stop talking, before you can ask a question or say 
> something.  if you
> >>>> want
> >>>> them to know you didn't understand what they just said, you can 
> >>>> actually
> >
> >>>> say
> >>>> it right away.  that's called "full duplex" sound, and 
> we usually only
> >>>> get
> >>>> it on a telephone conference call, but this software, 
> TeamTalk, has it.
> >>>>
> >>>> if there's a conference, and you don't own a microphone, 
> you can still
> >>>> join
> >>>> in and listen, and if you have a question, you can type 
> it in in the
> >>>> text
> >>>> message box of TeamTalk (which I may call "the client" 
> sometimes).
> >>>>
> >>>> if you or anyone else has a file you'd like everyone to 
> be able to 
> >>>> have,
> >>>> there's a place where the person with the file can 
> "share it", and that
> >>>> allows everyone else to download if they want.
> >>>>
> >>>> I haven't used TeamTalk myself, but when I asked others 
> who have a lot
> >>>> of
> >>>> experience with this kind of software what I should use 
> to go about
> >>>> holding
> >>>> group classes or meetings, where people could speak using "full 
> >>>> duplex",
> >>>> TeamTalk is what was recommended the most.
> >>>>
> >>>> I think it's very important to have full duplex, as it 
> allows people to
> >>>> quickly indicate, while everyone is thinking about the 
> point, that they
> >>>> have
> >>>> a question or a disagreement.  it allows for much more natural
> >>>> conversational flow.
> >>>>
> >>>> and TeamTalk has no limit on how many users may 
> participate at once, 
> >>>> and
> >>>> it's free!!!
> >>>>
> >>>> so, if we can get it to work, we'll have a great tool 
> for learning from
> >>>> one
> >>>> another, and for just getting together to talk to one another.
> >>>>
> >>>> blind people are very socially isolated as compared to 
> sighted people,
> >>>> and
> >>>> it's because of the transportation issue.  I hate it 
> that we can't just
> >>>> open
> >>>> up TABI for a free-for-all chat to help with this issue, 
> but we can't,
> >>>> so
> >>>> something like this is the obvious solution.  and, while buying a
> >>>> headset
> >>>> can cost $50, it's much more relaxing and enjoyable to 
> be able to talk
> >>>> with
> >>>> your friends than to type to them.  and there aren't 
> nearly so many
> >>>> emotional misunderstandings, which can so easily creep 
> in to an email
> >>>> conversation.
> >>>>
> >>>> I can't tell you how many times I've gotten angry, or 
> made someone else
> >>>> angry, needlessly, because the emotional content of what 
> they or I was
> >>>> trying to say got lost.  and so, an effort to help one 
> another turned
> >>>> into
> >>>> an argument unnecessarily.  I think hearing the other 
> person's voice
> >>>> will
> >>>> keep all that kind of thing from happening.
> >>>>
> >>>> so, please, everyone give it a try; buy a headset if you 
> can (Robert, 
> >>>> do
> >
> >>>> you
> >>>> have ideas, or do you sell headsets?).
> >>>>
> >>>> I bought mine from emicrophones.com because the owner 
> helped me pick 
> >>>> out
> >>>> something which plugged into my audio card rather than 
> being a usb
> >>>> headset,
> >>>> and wasn't that expensive.  it's a good site if you want help in 
> >>>> picking
> >>>> something out, and he carries a huge variety of headsets.
> >>>>
> >>>> don't forget, if you own a headset for a cell phone, such as a 
> >>>> bluetooth
> >>>> headset, and you have bluetooth on your pc, that should 
> work fine.
> >>>> there
> >>>> are adapters you can buy for the plugs on a phone 
> headset to allow you
> >>>> to
> >>>> plug it into the pc audio card.  and of course, you don't need a
> >>>> headset; if
> >>>> you have earphones and a microphone that should work.
> >>>>
> >>>> hth,
> >>>>
> >>>> Chip
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >>>> Behalf
> >>>> Of Yvonne Britton
> >>>> Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 3:49 PM
> >>>> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> Subject: [tabi] Re: online voice chat and accessible 
> meeting freeware
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi, Chip
> >>>> A lot of the technical terms I don't understand but I 
> wanted to  know 
> >>>> if
> >>>> this software is compatible with J. A. W. S. and System 
> Access? And
> >>>> could
> >>>> tell which download I am suppose to do. A lot of the 
> technical words I
> >>>> don't
> >>>> understand so if you can explain it where I can better 
> understand I
> >>>> would
> >>>> appreciate I am sure I am not the only who can not some of these 
> >>>> things.
> >>>> Yvonne
> >>>> GOD LOVES YOU AND SO DO I!!!
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Allison and Chip Orange" <acorange@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 1:33 PM
> >>>> Subject: [tabi] online voice chat and accessible meeting freeware
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> this message is about a new freeware software package, with a
> >>>>> specially designed accessible version, for holding 
> online meetings and
> >>>>> audio/video chats.  the software is TeamTalk version 4, 
> and their
> >>>>> special accessible version download page is:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 
> http://bearware.dk/index.php?section=products&pageid=tt4accessibility#
> >>>>> hdrmen
> >>>>> u
> >>>>>
> >>>>> it allows full duplex chatting (that is like a phone 
> conference call
> >>>>> where one person can interrupt another, without having to push a
> >>>>> button to talk).
> >>>>> it also allows the use of web-cams, so sighted users 
> can have a video
> >>>>> chat.
> >>>>> and finally, it allows file sharing among conference members.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm wondering about holding a TABI series of chats or 
> classes, if we
> >>>>> can get enough people to download and install TeamTalk. 
>  if you don't
> >>>>> have a microphone, then you can stil listen to a 
> meeting, and type
> >>>>> your questions via the text message feature of the client.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> so everyone, as time allows, please download and 
> install TeamTalk, and
> >>>>> read a little of the help.  and start thinking what 
> topics we might
> >>>>> use to build an online meeting around:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> are their computer topics you'd like someone to teach 
> more about?  how
> >>>>> to improve your finances and money situation?  argue 
> out the star
> >>>>> metro situation?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Are there topics you'd like to offer to teach/organize?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> anyone can request, or be the organizer, of any online 
> meeting, and we
> >>>>> don't have to arrange transportation!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> enjoy,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Chip
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Check out the TABI resource web page at
> >>>>> http://acorange.home.comcast.net/TABI
> >>>>> and please make suggestions for new material.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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