[tabi] Re: new electricity pricing plan (optional)

  • From: "Allison and Chip Orange" <acorange@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 21:56:14 -0500

why do you care if they deliver electricity cheaper?  since Talquin is a
co-op, they're required to give the profits back to the members.
 

-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Joe Plummer
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 9:36 PM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: new electricity pricing plan (optional)

Robert you are so right and hit it right on the nail head. I just got
something from Talquin Electric saying they are going to these smart meters
also. Now you know a company like that is not doing this just to befit and
lower cost to there members. They are the one that is going to befit the
most from this. I hated to hear this about TEC but it is coming and nothing
can we members do about it.
 


sign,
Joe Plummer (JP)
joeplummer@xxxxxxx
 
-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Daniel Ben Moshe
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 7:13 PM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: new electricity pricing plan (optional)

Well such as life in the world we live in congrats 


I'm glad to be your humble and obedient servant,

Zechen Elder Daniel Ben Moshe,
B'ni Yahshuah Synagogue Of Broward County, www.theblindcansee.org Choose ye
this day whom you will serve.  If YHWH be Elohim, then serve him, with all
of your heart.  However, if baal be your god, then serve him.  As for me,
and my house.  We choose to serve YHWH! 
 
The late Bishop Joe O Patterson told a story long ago, when i was a small
child.  about the show down, between Elijah, and the 450 false prophets of
baal. He shared with us how Elijah, stood, and told the false prophets to go
on ahead,and call their god first.   Because they had a much larger program.
He talked about how they had 450 participants to introduce. Elijah was so
sure of YHWH, he with confidence said, that he only had one.  Elijah also
reminded them, that they had to drag their fake god up the mountain side on
an ox cart.  Elijah also announced to the world, that his Elohim would be
there when he arrived.  He said mockingly, you go on ahead.  Heck, I will
even let you have prime time.  I'M going to take a nap, and when you guys
finish your foolishness, wake me up.  Go ahead now, take your best shot. 
Bishop Joe O Patterson
A blessed memory 
1963-1989   
-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Easy Talk
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 6:35 PM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: new electricity pricing plan (optional)

Well the whole idea was to cut out the meter reader so just putting it on
the electric only, wouldn't get the job done.  The city saves, you pay the
same just like the Nova 2010 scam.
You know the four pounds of sugar at the five pound price deal.  Most likely
the new electric plan will mostly benefit the city or they wouldn't be doing
it, that's why they are doing the pilot testing to see how much they would
make.

Robert

Robert

----- Original Message -----
From: "Allison and Chip Orange" <acorange@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 5:57 PM
Subject: [tabi] Re: new electricity pricing plan (optional)


> sorry to hear about that; but I do know they have the standard manual 
> display still on them as a backup in cases like yours.  I had no idea 
> though they were doing this with water meters, I only got a notice 
> from the city about my electric meter.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf Of Easy Talk
> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 4:49 PM
> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [tabi] Re: new electricity pricing plan (optional)
>
> As far as smart meters being correct, I'll have to disagree with this 
> since when one was installed on my rental property which was vacant 
> and the water was turned off at the street, I got a water bill for 
> $1,800.00 and I didn't make a typo in the amount.  After fussing with 
> the utility department for
> 3
> months, I finally had to call the mayors office to get it sorted out. 
> They
> couldn't understand why the visual reading was different than what was 
> being sent to the computer so I suggest you get a sighted person to 
> check your meter reading and compare it to your billed amount.  In my 
> case it deffentantly was noticeable but if the difference is slight 
> you might be getting screwed.
>
> Robert
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Allison and Chip Orange" <acorange@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 4:52 PM
> Subject: [tabi] Re: new electricity pricing plan (optional)
>
>
>> Joe,
>>
>> I can only say you've really got just about everything screwed up in 
>> this reply of yours.
>>
>> first, yes, you can opt out at any time; that question, and all the 
>> others you say aren't answered, are indeed answered on the web site 
>> provided in the original email.  This question was actually answered 
>> in the email, since I copied some of the questions from the site into 
>> the first email.
>>
>> next, nobody said anything about just having a smart meter would 
>> lower your bill.  that wasn't claimed, because they are a standard 
>> electric meter in every way, except that they can be read remotely 
>> over the internet.  they do not give false readings, and they have 
>> not caused anyone's bill to go up unjustly.  there has been no 
>> misreading by city workers.
>>
>> Yes, it's possible if you go on this plan for you to have a higher 
>> bill (if you use all your electricity during the peak daytime hours); 
>> you do have to read and understand it before doing something like 
>> signing up, or shooting off a reply full of misinformation.
>>
>> No, having residential customers switch their usage patterns because 
>> of this program will not change the peak load times; that's because 
>> peak load is largely a function of commercial use (that's why 
>> holidays are given to you at the cheaper rate, just like night time 
>> usage).
>>
>> The city does provide all of these answers on their web site, and 
>> time of day pricing for electricity is something which has been in 
>> common use across the country for 20 years I'd guess.
>>
>> this is a way for people who have very limited amounts of money to 
>> save a little more; you should not try and stop them from doing so by 
>> spouting a lot of conspiracy theory, or anti-government rhetoric 
>> which isn't backed up with any facts.  It's also a very 
>> environmentally friendly thing to do, as it keeps us from having to 
>> build new power plants.
>>
>>
>> Chip
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
>> Behalf Of Joe Plummer
>> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 4:24 PM
>> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [tabi] Re: new electricity pricing plan (optional)
>>
>> Yes, I heard about this from the Morning show on WFLA FM . The 
>> problem is with this is like the smart meters what if it really ended 
>> up with a higher cost to you and two if you decided you did not like 
>> it or it did not fit your needs could you opt out of it. These 
>> questions have not yet been answer. Also would if enough people got 
>> on this ban wagon wouldn't it change the peek time?  This then would 
>> throw you in a higher electric plan.
>> Also the question is if your house or rental is not energy efficient 
>> how would this effect your cost with these smart thermostat. So lots 
>> of questions and so far no answers from the city and lots more 
>> question that have not been listed here that has not been answered 
>> yet. Don't forget the smart meter was supposed to lower people 
>> electric bill and did exactly the opsit. No one has gave a good 
>> reason why this has happen. The best answer they came up with here is 
>> that the meter readers was not reading the meters right. Now you are 
>> saying that the city employed meter readers that could not read and 
>> write ? I don't think so I think the smart meters is just not working 
>> right but guess what you can't do anything about it but pay the bill.
>> So in my opinion is to be careful what you sign up for.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sign,
>> JP ( Joe Plummer)
>> joeplummer@xxxxxxx
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
>> Behalf Of Allison and Chip Orange
>> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 2:58 PM
>> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [tabi] new electricity pricing plan (optional)
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> below is info on the new optional electricity pricing plan.  instead 
>> of a single price, you can switch to a plan which prices it based on 
>> the time of day when you  use the power.
>>
>> To go with this, you can purchase thermostats which automatically 
>> change their temp settings based on the time of day, along with 
>> electric hot water timers which do the same thing.
>>
>> Chip
>>
>> -------
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The City Commission approved the first optional rate plan at its 
>> October 27, 2010 meeting. This new offering is known as the Nights & 
>> Weekends Pricing Program. As a new Energy Smart Plus program, it 
>> offers customers an alternative rate option with a lower price on 
>> electricity used during nights
>> (7 p.m. - 7 a.m.), weekends and holidays at 7.921 cents / kWh and a 
>> higher rate during weekdays (7 a.m. - 7 p.m.) at 22.264 cents / kWh.
>> The program is open to 2,000 City of Tallahassee Electric customers 
>> as a pilot from November 1, 2010 through April 30, 2012.
>>
>> More info at: http://www.talgov.com/you/energy/nw.cfm
>> Frequently Asked Questions and Answers from that site are copied below.
>>
>> Q: What are the rates associated with Nights & Weekends?
>> A: Currently, our electricity is at 12.158 cents / kWh all day, every 
>> day.
>> The new plan will be split between Daytime @ 22.264 cents / kWh and 
>> Nights
>
>> &
>> Weekends @ 7.921 cents / kWh. State holidays are also at the Nights & 
>> Weekends rate of 7.921 cents / kWh.
>>
>> Q: Can I stop the program at any time?
>> A: Yes, but if you return to the program, we will ask you to stay for 
>> a minimum of one year.
>>
>> Q: If I leave the program will I be able to re-enroll?
>> A: Yes, as long as there are available spots in the program; and 
>> you'll be required to remain on the plan for at least a full year.
>>
>> Q: When does this program start?
>> A: Customers can start signing up on November 1, 2010.
>>
>> Q: How can I sign up?
>> A: Call 891.4YOU (4968) or fill out a Customer Request Form for more 
>> information or to sign up.
>>
>>
>>
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