[tabi] Re: new electricity pricing plan (optional)

  • From: "Lynn Evans" <evans-lynn@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 21:44:53 -0500

I have not heard of water meters being smart. I believe it the the electrical meter.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Allison and Chip Orange" <acorange@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 5:57 PM
Subject: [tabi] Re: new electricity pricing plan (optional)


sorry to hear about that; but I do know they have the standard manual
display still on them as a backup in cases like yours. I had no idea though
they were doing this with water meters, I only got a notice from the city
about my electric meter.


-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Easy Talk
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 4:49 PM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: new electricity pricing plan (optional)

As far as smart meters being correct, I'll have to disagree with this since when one was installed on my rental property which was vacant and the water was turned off at the street, I got a water bill for $1,800.00 and I didn't make a typo in the amount. After fussing with the utility department for 3 months, I finally had to call the mayors office to get it sorted out. They couldn't understand why the visual reading was different than what was being
sent to the computer so I suggest you get a sighted person to check your
meter reading and compare it to your billed amount.  In my case it
deffentantly was noticeable but if the difference is slight you might be
getting screwed.

Robert

----- Original Message -----
From: "Allison and Chip Orange" <acorange@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 4:52 PM
Subject: [tabi] Re: new electricity pricing plan (optional)


Joe,

I can only say you've really got just about everything screwed up in this
reply of yours.

first, yes, you can opt out at any time; that question, and all the others
you say aren't answered, are indeed answered on the web site provided in
the
original email. This question was actually answered in the email, since I
copied some of the questions from the site into the first email.

next, nobody said anything about just having a smart meter would lower
your
bill.  that wasn't claimed, because they are a standard electric meter in
every way, except that they can be read remotely over the internet.  they
do
not give false readings, and they have not caused anyone's bill to go up
unjustly.  there has been no misreading by city workers.

Yes, it's possible if you go on this plan for you to have a higher bill
(if
you use all your electricity during the peak daytime hours); you do have
to
read and understand it before doing something like signing up, or shooting
off a reply full of misinformation.

No, having residential customers switch their usage patterns because of
this
program will not change the peak load times; that's because peak load is
largely a function of commercial use (that's why holidays are given to you
at the cheaper rate, just like night time usage).

The city does provide all of these answers on their web site, and time of
day pricing for electricity is something which has been in common use
across
the country for 20 years I'd guess.

this is a way for people who have very limited amounts of money to save a
little more; you should not try and stop them from doing so by spouting a
lot of conspiracy theory, or anti-government rhetoric which isn't backed
up
with any facts. It's also a very environmentally friendly thing to do, as
it keeps us from having to build new power plants.


Chip


-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
Of Joe Plummer
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 4:24 PM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: new electricity pricing plan (optional)

Yes, I heard about this from the Morning show on WFLA FM . The problem is
with this is like the smart meters what if it really ended up with a
higher
cost to you and two if you decided you did not like it or it did not fit
your needs could you opt out of it. These questions have not yet been
answer. Also would if enough people got on this ban wagon wouldn't it
change the peek time?  This then would throw you in a higher electric
plan.
Also the question is if your house or rental is not energy efficient how
would this effect your cost with these smart thermostat. So lots of
questions and so far no answers from the city and lots more question that
have not been listed here that has not been answered yet. Don't forget the smart meter was supposed to lower people electric bill and did exactly the
opsit. No one has gave a good reason why this has happen. The best answer
they came up with here is that the meter readers was not reading the
meters
right. Now you are saying that the city employed meter readers that could
not read and write ? I don't think so I think the smart meters is just not
working right but guess what you can't do anything about it but pay the
bill. So in my opinion is to be careful what you sign up for.



Sign,
JP ( Joe Plummer)
joeplummer@xxxxxxx

-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
Of Allison and Chip Orange
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 2:58 PM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] new electricity pricing plan (optional)

Hi all,

below is info on the new optional electricity pricing plan.  instead of a
single price, you can switch to a plan which prices it based on the time
of
day when you  use the power.

To go with this, you can purchase thermostats which automatically change
their temp settings based on the time of day, along with electric hot
water
timers which do the same thing.

Chip

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The City Commission approved the first optional rate plan at its October
27,
2010 meeting. This new offering is known as the Nights & Weekends Pricing
Program. As a new Energy Smart Plus program, it offers customers an
alternative rate option with a lower price on electricity used during
nights
(7 p.m. - 7 a.m.), weekends and holidays at 7.921 cents / kWh and a higher
rate during weekdays (7 a.m. - 7 p.m.) at 22.264 cents / kWh. The program
is
open to 2,000 City of Tallahassee Electric customers as a pilot from
November 1, 2010 through April 30, 2012.

More info at: http://www.talgov.com/you/energy/nw.cfm
Frequently Asked Questions and Answers from that site are copied below.

Q: What are the rates associated with Nights & Weekends?
A: Currently, our electricity is at 12.158 cents / kWh all day, every day. The new plan will be split between Daytime @ 22.264 cents / kWh and Nights

&
Weekends @ 7.921 cents / kWh. State holidays are also at the Nights &
Weekends rate of 7.921 cents / kWh.

Q: Can I stop the program at any time?
A: Yes, but if you return to the program, we will ask you to stay for a
minimum of one year.

Q: If I leave the program will I be able to re-enroll?
A: Yes, as long as there are available spots in the program; and you'll be
required to remain on the plan for at least a full year.

Q: When does this program start?
A: Customers can start signing up on November 1, 2010.

Q: How can I sign up?
A: Call 891.4YOU (4968) or fill out a Customer Request Form for more
information or to sign up.



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