I did not say I didn't say I did not no the guide lines at all. I know
pretty much but I have heard people on this list say the same thing, after
you have scolded them. It is just this simple the list has no guide lines
to
be seen. You just make them up as you go and people can not predict what
you
are thinking ahead of time. That is all I am saying. It wouldn't hurt to
have guide lines to go by.
Thanks,
Blackjack
misterblackjack2@xxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
Of Chip Orange
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 9:19 AM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] list guidelines
Blackjack,
sorry, I don't buy your excuse that you didn't know the guidelines for the
list because they aren't posted each month.
everyone knows what's allowed and what isn't, by the name of the list
alone.
And from time to time, I use specific examples of posts which aren't
blindness or Tallahassee related. those guidelines are simple enough we
don't need posting every month.
Now, for your particular post, Lynn was pointing out your remark about
"we've got too much government in our lives as it is." is both a
politically
inflammatory statement, and off topic. I wasn't suggesting you change the
subject, I'm saying your particular political beliefs don't meet the list
rules, as well as having nothing to do with what was being discussed.
Chip
------------------------------
Chip Orange
Database Administrator
Florida Public Service Commission
Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
(850) 413-6314
(Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not
necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.)
-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mister Blackjack
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 8:09 AM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: City of Tallahassee News Release -
Chip I mint it to go to the list. This being said. I did mis
understand the thread where you responded to talking thermostats. I
thought you were talking about the new smart meters that a lot of the
electric companies are implementing. Sorry about the mis
understanding. As for changing the subject to reflect the thread I am
all for that. I had mention that several times and it seem to piss
everyone off. I think the subject should reflect the thread or
conversation. If you are using another thread or conversation to put
out a email to the list that is a change of conversation or thread the
subject should reflect that. I also personally think the list should
have some guide lines or rules set in place. Such as what is on topic,
what can and not be posted to the list, what language can and can not
be used and so on. This set of guide lines should be posted to the
list at least once a month and to each new member. This would keep
problem down.
People don't
know what is and what isn't. This would help keep from getting people
piss off at you and the list because they don't know what the rules
and guide lines is. Every email list I have known has this in place
except for this one. First list I ever seen did not have rules
specifically stating in plain under standable language. Just my
thoughts.
Thanks,
Blackjack
misterblackjack2@xxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 2:52 PM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: City of Tallahassee News Release -
Blackjack,
well, if yu put it on the list it's to everyone. if you want it to go
to just one person, then send it to the person. I'm being asked to
remind folks to do that all the time.
Lynn's point, that we should try and stay on subject, is also one I'm
asked to remind folks to do.
this isn't meant to discourage you or anyone else from posting; just
reminding you to strike a balance.
Chip
------------------------------
Chip Orange
Database Administrator
Florida Public Service Commission
Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
(850) 413-6314
(Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not
necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Blackjack
> Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 8:56 AM
> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [tabi] Re: City of Tallahassee News Release -
>
> My response was to chip not you.
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> Blackjack
> misterblackjack2@xxxxxxxxx
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lynn Evans
> Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 8:39 AM
> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [tabi] Re: City of Tallahassee News Release -
>
> Blackjack I was talking about accessibility of thermostats here.
> And you are concerned about someone knocking on your door
and telling
> you what type of thermostat to use?
> So what am I missing here. Government intervention in our lives?
> I HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE MY ON THERMOSTAT!!!
>
> The 28 amendment to the constitution oh ya I forgot that one.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Blackjack" <misterblackjack2@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 8:03 AM
> Subject: [tabi] Re: City of Tallahassee News Release -
>
>
> > This is great as long as they don't make it mandatory. I
> think it should
> > be
> > a if you want to type of thing. We already have to much
> government control
> > of our lives. Just my thoughts.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Blackjack
> > misterblackjack2@xxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf
> > Of Allison and Chip Orange
> > Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 7:23 AM
> > To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [tabi] Re: City of Tallahassee News Release -
> >
> > while there's no talking zigbee (that's the protocol for
> smart energy use
> > this is talking about) thermostat that I know of; companies
> like home
> > automation inc make thermostats which tie into a central
> system in your
> > house, and that central system in turn is accessible and
> controllable over
> > your phone or over a web-like interface via your lan, or
> even over the
> > internet.
> >
> > such thermostats have capabilities like being able to
> adjust to the price
> > of
> > electricity, which can vary throughout the day if you sign
> up for that
> > kind
> > of plan. so, if electricity gets high in price, you can set the
> > thermostats to cool a little less, or heat a little less; you can
> > turn
> off the hot
> > water
> > heater, and so on.
> >
> > Chip
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf
> > Of Lynn Evans
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 10:02 PM
> > To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [tabi] Re: City of Tallahassee News Release -
> >
> > This is quite wordy. I don't think there was any mention
of Talking
> > thermostats.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: City of Tallahassee
<mailto:City_of_Tallahassee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > To: evans-lynn@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 2:40 PM
> > Subject: City of Tallahassee News Release -
> >
> > <http://www.talgov.com>
> >
> >
> > City of Tallahassee Receives $8.9 Million Federal Smart Grid Grant
> >
> > President Barack Obama yesterday announced the award of
Smart Grid
> > investment grants to modernize the nation's energy grid,
> spur development
> > of
> > renewable energy sources, stimulate the economy and create
> new jobs. The
> > City of Tallahassee Utilities was selected to receive $8.9
> million to
> > further city efforts to use technology to help customers
> manage their
> > power
> > use and save money.
> >
> > The federal smart grid grant will be used to build upon the major
> > commitment by the Tallahassee City Commission to implement a Smart
> Grid system. The
> > system includes the installation of 220,000 smart meters and the
> > associated communications infrastructure, software for data
> > collection
> to better
> > manage
> > power use by customers and the system overall, and smart
> grid devices for
> > customers including smart thermostats, in home displays and
> other tools
> > that
> > allow customers to manage their power use.
> >
> > In 2005 the City Commission directed staff to evaluate the
> potential for a
> > smart grid system in Tallahassee. At that time, the concept
> was being
> > discussed in the industry, but across the nation little
> movement was
> > taking
> > place. In March 2007, desiring to be on the cutting edge,
> the Commission
> > directed staff to move ahead with development of the
> system. By the end of
> > 2009, the city will have installed 220,000 smart meters as
> the backbone of
> > the system. By the summer / fall of 2010, customers will
be able to
> > utilize the system to manage their power use through such options
> > as:
> >
> > * Changing your home or business thermostat via the web from any
> > location.
> > * Choosing an electric rate that fits your lifestyle -
for example,
> > the option of a lower rate for using power in off peak
times such as
> > evenings or weekends.
> > * Evaluating your energy fitness, including how your home
> or business
> > energy use compares to others.
> >
> > Tallahassee will be one of the first communities in the
> nation to offer
> > Smart Grid services to its utility customers. Upon
completion of the
> > metering and communications infrastructure this year, the
City will
> > operate the first electric, gas and water Smart Metering
network in
> the nation.
> >
> > "We started the investment in smart grid technology before
> it took off as
> > a
> > smart concept nationally," said Mayor John Marks. "With the
> receipt of
> > this
> > federal grant, we will be able to do even more to give our
> customers
> > greater
> > control, flexibility and cost-saving options with their utilities.
> >
> > "With the support of the Tallahassee City Commission, I've had the
> > opportunity to meet personally with agency officials in
> Washington D.C.,
> > and
> > they understand Tallahassee's work as a leader in the Smart Grid
> > technology," added Marks. "That's important for our
> customers as the
> > bottom
> > line is that they will be able to save energy, save water
> and save money."
> >
> > Tallahassee was one of the 100 entities selected for the
> grant from 400
> > applicants. According to Reese Goad, Utility Business and
Customer
> > Services
> > Director, additional benefits from the federal funding and
> the city's
> > investment in Smart Grid technology and the city's Energy
> smart Plus (e+)
> > initiative include:
> >
> > * Energy-saving pricing programs
> > * Greater customer choices
> > * Access to up-to-date customer account information
> > * In-home energy usage and information displays
> > * More efficient field operations - less staff and trucks
> in the field
> > and less interruptions for customers
> > * Automated leak detection for water meters
> > * Improved theft prevention
> > * Access to billing and usage information via the web
> > * Interactive web-based tools such as online energy
audits and much
> > more
> > * More efficient power outage restoration - we'll be able
> to identify
> > the locations of outages for faster repair
> >
> > For more information on energy audit appointments,
> energy-saving tips and
> > other e+ programs visit Talgov.com/YOU or call Your Own
Utilities at
> > 891-4YOU (4968).
> >
> > Contact: Reese Goad, Utility Business and Customer Services
> Director,
> > 891-6803 or Michelle Bono, Assistant to the City Manager, 891-8200
> >
> >
> >
> >
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