Chip I mint it to go to the list. This being said. I did mis understand
the
thread where you responded to talking thermostats. I thought you were
talking about the new smart meters that a lot of the electric companies
are
implementing. Sorry about the mis understanding. As for changing the
subject
to reflect the thread I am all for that. I had mention that several times
and it seem to piss everyone off. I think the subject should reflect the
thread or conversation. If you are using another thread or conversation
to
put out a email to the list that is a change of conversation or thread
the
subject should reflect that. I also personally think the list should have
some guide lines or rules set in place. Such as what is on topic, what
can
and not be posted to the list, what language can and can not be used and
so
on. This set of guide lines should be posted to the list at least once a
month and to each new member. This would keep problem down. People don't
know what is and what isn't. This would help keep from getting people
piss
off at you and the list because they don't know what the rules and guide
lines is. Every email list I have known has this in place except for this
one. First list I ever seen did not have rules specifically stating in
plain
under standable language. Just my thoughts.
Thanks,
Blackjack
misterblackjack2@xxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
Of Chip Orange
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 2:52 PM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: City of Tallahassee News Release -
Blackjack,
well, if yu put it on the list it's to everyone. if you want it to go to
just one person, then send it to the person. I'm being asked to remind
folks to do that all the time.
Lynn's point, that we should try and stay on subject, is also one I'm
asked
to remind folks to do.
this isn't meant to discourage you or anyone else from posting; just
reminding you to strike a balance.
Chip
------------------------------
Chip Orange
Database Administrator
Florida Public Service Commission
Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
(850) 413-6314
(Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not
necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.)
-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Blackjack
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 8:56 AM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: City of Tallahassee News Release -
My response was to chip not you.
Thanks,
Blackjack
misterblackjack2@xxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lynn Evans
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 8:39 AM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: City of Tallahassee News Release -
Blackjack I was talking about accessibility of thermostats here.
And you are concerned about someone knocking on your door and telling
you what type of thermostat to use?
So what am I missing here. Government intervention in our lives?
I HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE MY ON THERMOSTAT!!!
The 28 amendment to the constitution oh ya I forgot that one.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Blackjack" <misterblackjack2@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 8:03 AM
Subject: [tabi] Re: City of Tallahassee News Release -
> This is great as long as they don't make it mandatory. I
think it should
> be
> a if you want to type of thing. We already have to much
government control
> of our lives. Just my thoughts.
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> Blackjack
> misterblackjack2@xxxxxxxxx
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf
> Of Allison and Chip Orange
> Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 7:23 AM
> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [tabi] Re: City of Tallahassee News Release -
>
> while there's no talking zigbee (that's the protocol for
smart energy use
> this is talking about) thermostat that I know of; companies
like home
> automation inc make thermostats which tie into a central
system in your
> house, and that central system in turn is accessible and
controllable over
> your phone or over a web-like interface via your lan, or
even over the
> internet.
>
> such thermostats have capabilities like being able to
adjust to the price
> of
> electricity, which can vary throughout the day if you sign
up for that
> kind
> of plan. so, if electricity gets high in price, you can set the
> thermostats to cool a little less, or heat a little less; you can
> turn
off the hot
> water
> heater, and so on.
>
> Chip
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf
> Of Lynn Evans
> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 10:02 PM
> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [tabi] Re: City of Tallahassee News Release -
>
> This is quite wordy. I don't think there was any mention of Talking
> thermostats.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: City of Tallahassee <mailto:City_of_Tallahassee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> To: evans-lynn@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 2:40 PM
> Subject: City of Tallahassee News Release -
>
> <http://www.talgov.com>
>
>
> City of Tallahassee Receives $8.9 Million Federal Smart Grid Grant
>
> President Barack Obama yesterday announced the award of Smart Grid
> investment grants to modernize the nation's energy grid,
spur development
> of
> renewable energy sources, stimulate the economy and create
new jobs. The
> City of Tallahassee Utilities was selected to receive $8.9
million to
> further city efforts to use technology to help customers
manage their
> power
> use and save money.
>
> The federal smart grid grant will be used to build upon the major
> commitment by the Tallahassee City Commission to implement a Smart
Grid system. The
> system includes the installation of 220,000 smart meters and the
> associated communications infrastructure, software for data
> collection
to better
> manage
> power use by customers and the system overall, and smart
grid devices for
> customers including smart thermostats, in home displays and
other tools
> that
> allow customers to manage their power use.
>
> In 2005 the City Commission directed staff to evaluate the
potential for a
> smart grid system in Tallahassee. At that time, the concept
was being
> discussed in the industry, but across the nation little
movement was
> taking
> place. In March 2007, desiring to be on the cutting edge,
the Commission
> directed staff to move ahead with development of the
system. By the end of
> 2009, the city will have installed 220,000 smart meters as
the backbone of
> the system. By the summer / fall of 2010, customers will be able to
> utilize the system to manage their power use through such options
> as:
>
> * Changing your home or business thermostat via the web from any
> location.
> * Choosing an electric rate that fits your lifestyle - for example,
> the option of a lower rate for using power in off peak times such as
> evenings or weekends.
> * Evaluating your energy fitness, including how your home
or business
> energy use compares to others.
>
> Tallahassee will be one of the first communities in the
nation to offer
> Smart Grid services to its utility customers. Upon completion of the
> metering and communications infrastructure this year, the City will
> operate the first electric, gas and water Smart Metering network in
the nation.
>
> "We started the investment in smart grid technology before
it took off as
> a
> smart concept nationally," said Mayor John Marks. "With the
receipt of
> this
> federal grant, we will be able to do even more to give our
customers
> greater
> control, flexibility and cost-saving options with their utilities.
>
> "With the support of the Tallahassee City Commission, I've had the
> opportunity to meet personally with agency officials in
Washington D.C.,
> and
> they understand Tallahassee's work as a leader in the Smart Grid
> technology," added Marks. "That's important for our
customers as the
> bottom
> line is that they will be able to save energy, save water
and save money."
>
> Tallahassee was one of the 100 entities selected for the
grant from 400
> applicants. According to Reese Goad, Utility Business and Customer
> Services
> Director, additional benefits from the federal funding and
the city's
> investment in Smart Grid technology and the city's Energy
smart Plus (e+)
> initiative include:
>
> * Energy-saving pricing programs
> * Greater customer choices
> * Access to up-to-date customer account information
> * In-home energy usage and information displays
> * More efficient field operations - less staff and trucks
in the field
> and less interruptions for customers
> * Automated leak detection for water meters
> * Improved theft prevention
> * Access to billing and usage information via the web
> * Interactive web-based tools such as online energy audits and much
> more
> * More efficient power outage restoration - we'll be able
to identify
> the locations of outages for faster repair
>
> For more information on energy audit appointments,
energy-saving tips and
> other e+ programs visit Talgov.com/YOU or call Your Own Utilities at
> 891-4YOU (4968).
>
> Contact: Reese Goad, Utility Business and Customer Services
Director,
> 891-6803 or Michelle Bono, Assistant to the City Manager, 891-8200
>
>
>
>
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