[tabi] Re: article for tomorrow's Democrat: Sidewalk construction for Nova2010

  • From: "Charles Atkins" <catkins@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 13:58:19 -0500

Robert,

maybe when you type o's back to back, as in the word (t o o, or, too), your 
computer is leaving one of them off? Or, has that become an acceptable braille 
contraction?   

Your Buddy Charles Atkins


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Easy Talk 
  To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 8:37 AM
  Subject: [tabi] Re: article for tomorrow's Democrat: Sidewalk construction 
for Nova2010


  Hi Darla,  If you aren't given enough time to cross, I would call the traffic 
engineers office.  Also if you are using a audible crossing just because the 
audible sound has stopped, that doesn't mean the light has actually changed.  
This is by design so you don't start crossing the street to late.

  Robert

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Darla J. Rogers 
    To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 9:59 PM
    Subject: [tabi] Re: article for tomorrow's Democrat: Sidewalk construction 
for Nova2010


    Dear Barbara,

    I have done that, a time or two, myself; patience is sorely lacking in 
today's society. Guess people never figure they could be in your position, or 
mine, and the way the lights work here is a mystery to me.

    I don't know if they are run off one computer or separately, but it seems 
they don't work properly, especially if one uses the pedestrian button, I 
thought the light was to stay on longer.

    Am I wrong here?

    Darla & Precious Roxy


      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Barbara Lineberry 
      To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 8:43 PM
      Subject: [tabi] Re: article for tomorrow's Democrat: Sidewalk 
construction for Nova2010


      Hi Darla and Precious Roxy,

      I'd seen you'd mentioned holding out your cane to be more visable to 
drivers.  I remember one time crossing Apalachee Parkway at Paul Russell Road 
(one of the very few times I've had to cross by walking).  I went with the 
light, but the light changed before I could get across and a car honked at me 
to get a move on.  I glared at him and tapped his car with my cane and he 
threatened to sue me and ranted the rest of the time I was crossing.  It was 
very scary.  I admit I shouldn't have hit his car, but it was so obvious that I 
couldn't move faster.  I hope also that grant monies may be found and that the 
things that Mimi mentioned can happen too, but the problem is always money 
and/or people in power who won't do what they should.
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Darla J. Rogers 
        To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 4:51 PM
        Subject: [tabi] Re: article for tomorrow's Democrat: Sidewalk 
construction for Nova2010


        Dear Barbara,

        I think Ron and Mr. Menendez understand not just blind people will 
benefit from more sidewalks and repairs, so again, I hope grant monies may be 
found to assist the city in its efforts.

        Darla & Precious Roxy

          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Barbara Lineberry 
          To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
          Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:16 PM
          Subject: [tabi] Re: article for tomorrow's Democrat: Sidewalk 
construction for Nova2010


          Just a note from a sighted member of this group.  It's not just the 
blind that have obstacles to their freedom.  I'm severely orthopedically 
challenged and can't go to many of the places around town due to obstacles and 
poor balance.  It's been this way all of my life, but is getting much worse as 
I get older.  I'm at peace with the problem for the most part but I'm only 
speaking for myself.  Yes, sidewalks would be a wonderful addition and even I 
can appreciate the audible signals.  Thank heavens I can drive with hand 
controls, but not always, as have torn rotator cuffs and don't always have the 
strength to turn the wheel.  I'm well aware of being frustrated at some 
situations.  I'm one who believes things are finally accomplished when someone 
in power or who is famous develops a disability which then gets a lot of 
publicity and forces the "temporarily able" to make changes.  And there are 
sidewalks in several places that are in disrepair with cracks and other 
problems and those places will probably be listed as with sidewalks even though 
they are more dangerous.  And to Sila and Darla, even though I haven't made a 
formal check, I'm pretty sure that Kerry Forest has sidewalks, at least on one 
side and maybe both.

          Barbara
            ----- Original Message ----- 
            From: Charles Atkins 
            To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
            Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 11:34 PM
            Subject: [tabi] Re: article for tomorrow's Democrat: Sidewalk 
construction for Nova2010


            But who need, what group need sidewalks more than the blind, and, 
why is it that no one can see that as a priority?  I know they're building them 
and we're not, but, we're not, because, they won't allow us such a privilege or 
even such an education but, I bet there are those of us that could figure it 
out and probably with a little help from our friends, do a whale of a job 
helping with installing them!

            They are not trying to keep us off the street.  They are not trying 
to maintain that we not compete the same as everyone else for the jobs,.  They 
are not trying to indicate that making sidewalks and and city travel more city 
friendly for the blind might be inviting too many ways for some to be injured.  
They know that for the most part, we're all very safe drivers in maneuvering 
our courses, and yet, for some strange reason, they haven't fixed it up for us 
yet!  Even, in the state's capitalCity!  There is something, terribly, wrong 
with this picture!

            It seems like The makers of Automobiles will have: self driving 
ones before we lay our grounds to receive them!

            We have gone more than a tenth the way through, yet, another 
century, and still, we're on the outside looking in?

            Everybody in the world is getting freedom and ripping and running 
around at will but us blind folk William!

            That's not fair!

            Some time we wana tare out and run too!  Don't we?

            Somehow, things can be better we know!  Right William?

            Take it on to them like it is my friend!

            Time waits for noone or, anything!

            Tell them just like it i s is! Brother!


              ----- Original Message ----- 
              From: blindwilly 
              To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
              Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 7:57 PM
              Subject: [tabi] Re: article for tomorrow's Democrat: Sidewalk 
construction for Nova2010


              Charles,

              I am on your side buddy, but there is never going to be enough 
money.   We have a few million to work on high priority sidewalks now and 
perhaps when we have finished them, we will get another grant to continue, but 
even then there will be priorities.

              It's like the pharmacy add says, this is not a perfect world.   I 
wish it were, and I am batting it out my friend so keep in there with the cause 
and we will all get there in the end.

              Willy



                ----- Original Message ----- 
                From: Charles Atkins 
                To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 9:20 PM
                Subject: [tabi] Re: article for tomorrow's Democrat: Sidewalk 
construction for Nova2010


                Even with the remotest possibility of their, possibly, not 
finding a sidewalk at a bus stop, stifles any notion they might have to just be 
creative and venture out for the sake of just being a happier person and 
feeling more independent as a blind person!  Does anyone else feel almost like 
I do?

                It would be fun to just get up and go, but, the fact of one 
realizing the sidewalk project is millions of dollars short, impedes any such 
liberty for the cane travelers.  

                Is there anything we cane travelers can do to help them come up 
with the rest of the money that's needed to complete the project?

                What a wonderful city it would be if we could just go a head on 
and be guaranteed that no matter where we go we won't be bothered with such a 
scenario as our not finding along the way, the sidewalk once we got to where 
they're missing or hadn't been installed to allow us to just enjoy our trip!

                Otherwise, it's just just a hendrance!






                  ----- Original Message ----- 
                  From: Chip Orange 
                  To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                  Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 4:36 PM
                  Subject: [tabi] article for tomorrow's Democrat: Sidewalk 
construction for Nova2010


                  Sidewalk construction for Nova2010 continues but 'woefully' 
short
                  By TaMaryn Waters

                  Being blind is a way of life for Bruce Weaver, and so is 
riding the bus.
                  Weaver, 48, who's been blind for 25 years as a result of a 
hereditary disease, rides
                  a bus five to six times a day since he's the 
independent-living coordinator for Ability
                  1st. His job is to teach those with disabilities how to use 
StarMetro's buses as
                  well as he does.
                  With StarMetro's new Nova2010 bus system slated to launch 
this summer, city crews
                  are tackling the tough job of correcting safety issues with 
sidewalks and building
                  new ones in areas where no sidewalk exists so people like 
Weaver can get better access
                  to bus stops.
                  "Without sidewalks, my level of independence would be 
significantly hampered," said
                  Weaver, who also serves on the city's Transit Advisory 
Committee.
                  Even though he's pleased to see more sidewalks in the works, 
Weaver is disappointed
                  all of the sidewalks needed for the massive decentralized bus 
system will not be
                  done anytime soon. The city has $15 million carved out of its 
budget for sidewalk
                  improvements related to Nova2010. But there's $37 million 
worth of need, which is
                  roughly 25 miles of sidewalks, said Gabriel Menendez, the 
city's public works director.
                  As a result, the city has to prioritize which sidewalks get 
done. Forty one segments
                  in varied lengths, equal to $8 million of construction costs, 
are on land where the
                  city has right-of-way. But 30 other segments needed for 
Nova2010 are not owned by
                  the city. Menendez said it would cost an estimated $29 
million obtain the needed
                  right-of-way.
                  "We are going to be woefully short on sidewalks," Menendez 
said. "We are doing everything
                  we can to make the process work."
                  It is also why we can travelers can't make more abundant use 
of the chirping signals they have been installing!

                  It is fool's play to go out and chance it though, i'm sure 
many of us often, would like to give it a shot from time to time.

                  That shot couldor could not work in random instances!

                  When will this constant threat to our lives end man?

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