Darla, It's one computer. they have an email address you can write to for problems or complaints re traffic lights. I'll try and find it and publish it here. Chip _____ From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Darla J. Rogers Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 9:59 PM To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tabi] Re: article for tomorrow's Democrat: Sidewalk construction for Nova2010 Dear Barbara, I have done that, a time or two, myself; patience is sorely lacking in today's society. Guess people never figure they could be in your position, or mine, and the way the lights work here is a mystery to me. I don't know if they are run off one computer or separately, but it seems they don't work properly, especially if one uses the pedestrian button, I thought the light was to stay on longer. Am I wrong here? Darla & Precious Roxy ----- Original Message ----- From: Barbara <mailto:bkblpp@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Lineberry To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 8:43 PM Subject: [tabi] Re: article for tomorrow's Democrat: Sidewalk construction for Nova2010 Hi Darla and Precious Roxy, I'd seen you'd mentioned holding out your cane to be more visable to drivers. I remember one time crossing Apalachee Parkway at Paul Russell Road (one of the very few times I've had to cross by walking). I went with the light, but the light changed before I could get across and a car honked at me to get a move on. I glared at him and tapped his car with my cane and he threatened to sue me and ranted the rest of the time I was crossing. It was very scary. I admit I shouldn't have hit his car, but it was so obvious that I couldn't move faster. I hope also that grant monies may be found and that the things that Mimi mentioned can happen too, but the problem is always money and/or people in power who won't do what they should. ----- Original Message ----- From: Darla J. Rogers <mailto:djrogers0628@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 4:51 PM Subject: [tabi] Re: article for tomorrow's Democrat: Sidewalk construction for Nova2010 Dear Barbara, I think Ron and Mr. Menendez understand not just blind people will benefit from more sidewalks and repairs, so again, I hope grant monies may be found to assist the city in its efforts. Darla & Precious Roxy ----- Original Message ----- From: Barbara <mailto:bkblpp@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Lineberry To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:16 PM Subject: [tabi] Re: article for tomorrow's Democrat: Sidewalk construction for Nova2010 Just a note from a sighted member of this group. It's not just the blind that have obstacles to their freedom. I'm severely orthopedically challenged and can't go to many of the places around town due to obstacles and poor balance. It's been this way all of my life, but is getting much worse as I get older. I'm at peace with the problem for the most part but I'm only speaking for myself. Yes, sidewalks would be a wonderful addition and even I can appreciate the audible signals. Thank heavens I can drive with hand controls, but not always, as have torn rotator cuffs and don't always have the strength to turn the wheel. I'm well aware of being frustrated at some situations. I'm one who believes things are finally accomplished when someone in power or who is famous develops a disability which then gets a lot of publicity and forces the "temporarily able" to make changes. And there are sidewalks in several places that are in disrepair with cracks and other problems and those places will probably be listed as with sidewalks even though they are more dangerous. And to Sila and Darla, even though I haven't made a formal check, I'm pretty sure that Kerry Forest has sidewalks, at least on one side and maybe both. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: Charles <mailto:catkins@xxxxxxx> Atkins To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 11:34 PM Subject: [tabi] Re: article for tomorrow's Democrat: Sidewalk construction for Nova2010 But who need, what group need sidewalks more than the blind, and, why is it that no one can see that as a priority? I know they're building them and we're not, but, we're not, because, they won't allow us such a privilege or even such an education but, I bet there are those of us that could figure it out and probably with a little help from our friends, do a whale of a job helping with installing them! They are not trying to keep us off the street. They are not trying to maintain that we not compete the same as everyone else for the jobs,. They are not trying to indicate that making sidewalks and and city travel more city friendly for the blind might be inviting too many ways for some to be injured. They know that for the most part, we're all very safe drivers in maneuvering our courses, and yet, for some strange reason, they haven't fixed it up for us yet! Even, in the state's capitalCity! There is something, terribly, wrong with this picture! It seems like The makers of Automobiles will have: self driving ones before we lay our grounds to receive them! We have gone more than a tenth the way through, yet, another century, and still, we're on the outside looking in? Everybody in the world is getting freedom and ripping and running around at will but us blind folk William! That's not fair! Some time we wana tare out and run too! Don't we? Somehow, things can be better we know! Right William? Take it on to them like it is my friend! Time waits for noone or, anything! Tell them just like it i s is! Brother! ----- Original Message ----- From: blindwilly <mailto:blindwilly@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 7:57 PM Subject: [tabi] Re: article for tomorrow's Democrat: Sidewalk construction for Nova2010 Charles, I am on your side buddy, but there is never going to be enough money. We have a few million to work on high priority sidewalks now and perhaps when we have finished them, we will get another grant to continue, but even then there will be priorities. It's like the pharmacy add says, this is not a perfect world. I wish it were, and I am batting it out my friend so keep in there with the cause and we will all get there in the end. Willy ----- Original Message ----- From: Charles <mailto:catkins@xxxxxxx> Atkins To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 9:20 PM Subject: [tabi] Re: article for tomorrow's Democrat: Sidewalk construction for Nova2010 Even with the remotest possibility of their, possibly, not finding a sidewalk at a bus stop, stifles any notion they might have to just be creative and venture out for the sake of just being a happier person and feeling more independent as a blind person! Does anyone else feel almost like I do? It would be fun to just get up and go, but, the fact of one realizing the sidewalk project is millions of dollars short, impedes any such liberty for the cane travelers. Is there anything we cane travelers can do to help them come up with the rest of the money that's needed to complete the project? What a wonderful city it would be if we could just go a head on and be guaranteed that no matter where we go we won't be bothered with such a scenario as our not finding along the way, the sidewalk once we got to where they're missing or hadn't been installed to allow us to just enjoy our trip! Otherwise, it's just just a hendrance! ----- Original Message ----- From: Chip Orange <mailto:Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 4:36 PM Subject: [tabi] article for tomorrow's Democrat: Sidewalk construction for Nova2010 Sidewalk construction for Nova2010 continues but 'woefully' short By TaMaryn Waters Being blind is a way of life for Bruce Weaver, and so is riding the bus. Weaver, 48, who's been blind for 25 years as a result of a hereditary disease, rides a bus five to six times a day since he's the independent-living coordinator for Ability 1st. His job is to teach those with disabilities how to use StarMetro's buses as well as he does. With StarMetro's new Nova2010 bus system slated to launch this summer, city crews are tackling the tough job of correcting safety issues with sidewalks and building new ones in areas where no sidewalk exists so people like Weaver can get better access to bus stops. "Without sidewalks, my level of independence would be significantly hampered," said Weaver, who also serves on the city's Transit Advisory Committee. Even though he's pleased to see more sidewalks in the works, Weaver is disappointed all of the sidewalks needed for the massive decentralized bus system will not be done anytime soon. The city has $15 million carved out of its budget for sidewalk improvements related to Nova2010. But there's $37 million worth of need, which is roughly 25 miles of sidewalks, said Gabriel Menendez, the city's public works director. As a result, the city has to prioritize which sidewalks get done. Forty one segments in varied lengths, equal to $8 million of construction costs, are on land where the city has right-of-way. But 30 other segments needed for Nova2010 are not owned by the city. Menendez said it would cost an estimated $29 million obtain the needed right-of-way. "We are going to be woefully short on sidewalks," Menendez said. "We are doing everything we can to make the process work." It is also why we can travelers can't make more abundant use of the chirping signals they have been installing! It is fool's play to go out and chance it though, i'm sure many of us often, would like to give it a shot from time to time. That shot couldor could not work in random instances! When will this constant threat to our lives end man?