[tabi] Re: article for tomorrow's Democrat: Sidewalk construction for Nova2010

  • From: "Allison and Chip Orange" <acorange@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 11:42:59 -0500

Darla,
 
It's one computer.  they have an email address you can write to for problems
or complaints re traffic lights.  I'll try and find it and publish it here.
 
Chip
 
 
 

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From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Darla J. Rogers
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 9:59 PM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: article for tomorrow's Democrat: Sidewalk construction
for Nova2010


Dear Barbara,
 
I have done that, a time or two, myself; patience is sorely lacking in
today's society. Guess people never figure they could be in your position,
or mine, and the way the lights work here is a mystery to me.
 
I don't know if they are run off one computer or separately, but it seems
they don't work properly, especially if one uses the pedestrian button, I
thought the light was to stay on longer.
 
Am I wrong here?
 
Darla & Precious Roxy
 
 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Barbara  <mailto:bkblpp@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Lineberry 
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 8:43 PM
Subject: [tabi] Re: article for tomorrow's Democrat: Sidewalk construction
for Nova2010

Hi Darla and Precious Roxy,
 
I'd seen you'd mentioned holding out your cane to be more visable to
drivers.  I remember one time crossing Apalachee Parkway at Paul Russell
Road (one of the very few times I've had to cross by walking).  I went with
the light, but the light changed before I could get across and a car honked
at me to get a move on.  I glared at him and tapped his car with my cane and
he threatened to sue me and ranted the rest of the time I was crossing.  It
was very scary.  I admit I shouldn't have hit his car, but it was so obvious
that I couldn't move faster.  I hope also that grant monies may be found and
that the things that Mimi mentioned can happen too, but the problem is
always money and/or people in power who won't do what they should.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Darla J. Rogers <mailto:djrogers0628@xxxxxxxxxxx>  
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 4:51 PM
Subject: [tabi] Re: article for tomorrow's Democrat: Sidewalk construction
for Nova2010

Dear Barbara,
 
I think Ron and Mr. Menendez understand not just blind people will benefit
from more sidewalks and repairs, so again, I hope grant monies may be found
to assist the city in its efforts.
 
Darla & Precious Roxy
 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Barbara  <mailto:bkblpp@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Lineberry 
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:16 PM
Subject: [tabi] Re: article for tomorrow's Democrat: Sidewalk construction
for Nova2010

Just a note from a sighted member of this group.  It's not just the blind
that have obstacles to their freedom.  I'm severely orthopedically
challenged and can't go to many of the places around town due to obstacles
and poor balance.  It's been this way all of my life, but is getting much
worse as I get older.  I'm at peace with the problem for the most part but
I'm only speaking for myself.  Yes, sidewalks would be a wonderful addition
and even I can appreciate the audible signals.  Thank heavens I can drive
with hand controls, but not always, as have torn rotator cuffs and don't
always have the strength to turn the wheel.  I'm well aware of being
frustrated at some situations.  I'm one who believes things are finally
accomplished when someone in power or who is famous develops a disability
which then gets a lot of publicity and forces the "temporarily able" to make
changes.  And there are sidewalks in several places that are in disrepair
with cracks and other problems and those places will probably be listed as
with sidewalks even though they are more dangerous.  And to Sila and Darla,
even though I haven't made a formal check, I'm pretty sure that Kerry Forest
has sidewalks, at least on one side and maybe both.
 
Barbara

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Charles  <mailto:catkins@xxxxxxx> Atkins 
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 11:34 PM
Subject: [tabi] Re: article for tomorrow's Democrat: Sidewalk construction
for Nova2010

But who need, what group need sidewalks more than the blind, and, why is it
that no one can see that as a priority?  I know they're building them and
we're not, but, we're not, because, they won't allow us such a privilege or
even such an education but, I bet there are those of us that could figure it
out and probably with a little help from our friends, do a whale of a job
helping with installing them!
 
They are not trying to keep us off the street.  They are not trying to
maintain that we not compete the same as everyone else for the jobs,.  They
are not trying to indicate that making sidewalks and and city travel more
city friendly for the blind might be inviting too many ways for some to be
injured.  They know that for the most part, we're all very safe drivers in
maneuvering our courses, and yet, for some strange reason, they haven't
fixed it up for us yet!  Even, in the state's capitalCity!  There is
something, terribly, wrong with this picture!
 
It seems like The makers of Automobiles will have: self driving ones before
we lay our grounds to receive them!
 
We have gone more than a tenth the way through, yet, another century, and
still, we're on the outside looking in?
 
Everybody in the world is getting freedom and ripping and running around at
will but us blind folk William!
 
That's not fair!
 
Some time we wana tare out and run too!  Don't we?
 
Somehow, things can be better we know!  Right William?
 
Take it on to them like it is my friend!
 
Time waits for noone or, anything!
 
Tell them just like it i s is! Brother!
 
 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: blindwilly <mailto:blindwilly@xxxxxxxxxxx>  
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 7:57 PM
Subject: [tabi] Re: article for tomorrow's Democrat: Sidewalk construction
for Nova2010

Charles,
 
I am on your side buddy, but there is never going to be enough money.   We
have a few million to work on high priority sidewalks now and perhaps when
we have finished them, we will get another grant to continue, but even then
there will be priorities.
 
It's like the pharmacy add says, this is not a perfect world.   I wish it
were, and I am batting it out my friend so keep in there with the cause and
we will all get there in the end.
 
Willy
 
 
 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Charles  <mailto:catkins@xxxxxxx> Atkins 
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 9:20 PM
Subject: [tabi] Re: article for tomorrow's Democrat: Sidewalk construction
for Nova2010

Even with the remotest possibility of their, possibly, not finding a
sidewalk at a bus stop, stifles any notion they might have to just be
creative and venture out for the sake of just being a happier person and
feeling more independent as a blind person!  Does anyone else feel almost
like I do?
 
It would be fun to just get up and go, but, the fact of one realizing the
sidewalk project is millions of dollars short, impedes any such liberty for
the cane travelers.  
 
Is there anything we cane travelers can do to help them come up with the
rest of the money that's needed to complete the project?
 
What a wonderful city it would be if we could just go a head on and be
guaranteed that no matter where we go we won't be bothered with such a
scenario as our not finding along the way, the sidewalk once we got to where
they're missing or hadn't been installed to allow us to just enjoy our trip!
 
Otherwise, it's just just a hendrance!
 
 
 
 
 
 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Chip Orange <mailto:Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 4:36 PM
Subject: [tabi] article for tomorrow's Democrat: Sidewalk construction for
Nova2010


Sidewalk construction for Nova2010 continues but 'woefully' short
By TaMaryn Waters

Being blind is a way of life for Bruce Weaver, and so is riding the bus.
Weaver, 48, who's been blind for 25 years as a result of a hereditary
disease, rides
a bus five to six times a day since he's the independent-living coordinator
for Ability
1st. His job is to teach those with disabilities how to use StarMetro's
buses as
well as he does.
With StarMetro's new Nova2010 bus system slated to launch this summer, city
crews
are tackling the tough job of correcting safety issues with sidewalks and
building
new ones in areas where no sidewalk exists so people like Weaver can get
better access
to bus stops.
"Without sidewalks, my level of independence would be significantly
hampered," said
Weaver, who also serves on the city's Transit Advisory Committee.
Even though he's pleased to see more sidewalks in the works, Weaver is
disappointed
all of the sidewalks needed for the massive decentralized bus system will
not be
done anytime soon. The city has $15 million carved out of its budget for
sidewalk
improvements related to Nova2010. But there's $37 million worth of need,
which is
roughly 25 miles of sidewalks, said Gabriel Menendez, the city's public
works director.
As a result, the city has to prioritize which sidewalks get done. Forty one
segments
in varied lengths, equal to $8 million of construction costs, are on land
where the
city has right-of-way. But 30 other segments needed for Nova2010 are not
owned by
the city. Menendez said it would cost an estimated $29 million obtain the
needed
right-of-way.
"We are going to be woefully short on sidewalks," Menendez said. "We are
doing everything
we can to make the process work."
It is also why we can travelers can't make more abundant use of the chirping
signals they have been installing!
 
It is fool's play to go out and chance it though, i'm sure many of us often,
would like to give it a shot from time to time.
 
That shot couldor could not work in random instances!
 
When will this constant threat to our lives end man?
 
 

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