[tabi] Re: an idea for Nova 2010
- From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 11:46:06 -0500
Lynn,
well, I certainly was hoping StarMetro would bear the entire cost of
this solution. perhaps they'd charge say a $25 fee for the loan of a
handheld unit, refundable if you turned it back in in working order.
that should not be too much for anyone to pay, and yet be enough to
cause only those who need them to ask for them, and to take care of
them.
the manufacturer told me that deep discounting would be available for
quantity purchases, so these may not cost StarMetro too much to
implement.
finally, unless it's a divided highway, it should be possible for the
base stations to send it's beam across a street (perhaps not
catty-corner), but it should be able to tell you if the bus stop was
across the street (and of course tell you where, if any, the button for
the audible signal is located).
And, if we can get StarMetro or anyone to star using this technology,
which is very inexpensive ($200 a base station retail price, $175 a
handheld unit), then we can use that as an example to others and to
blind citizens as a reason to star investing money in it for other
locations.
Chip
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Chip Orange
Database Administrator
Florida Public Service Commission
Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
(850) 413-6314
(Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not
necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lynn Evans
> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 10:29 PM
> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [tabi] Re: an idea for Nova 2010
>
> I see your point.
>
> I am looking for low tech inexpensive solutions until the
> economy gets going
> again.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 4:14 PM
> Subject: [tabi] Re: an idea for Nova 2010
>
>
> > Thanks Lynn.
> >
> > Just so you understand my point though, just knowing
> there's a bus stop
> > at any given intersection, even if it's got tactile bumps
> where it is,
> > doesn't help a blind person find the bus stop. these
> SoundPost devices
> > would help you do that if you got on the correct corner at least; I
> > don't know if they would work across an intersection; I
> imagine it can
> > be more than 90 feet.
> >
> > It would, in general, be great if these devices were used in public
> > buildings to show blind people where the bathrooms were, on the
> > university campus to show where building and their
> entrances were, the
> > usefulness is fantastic, if you could get people to start
> using them.
> >
> > If the manufacturer would consent to do custom runs for
> vocabularies for
> > all the unused numbers available (he's currently only using
> 185 terms
> > which describe the type of base station location),
> StarMetro could have
> > a set of eprom chips done for instance, and have a device
> hung on the
> > front of each bus so that as it pulled up, your handheld
> unit would say
> > "bus 80x", or FSU could have a set of chips done, which
> identified each
> > building by name ("south entrance of Strosure Library" for example).
> >
> > it would be even better if some device with a GPS
> navigation system (the
> > Trekker just for instance), also had this capability, so
> that it could
> > both get you in the general visinity, and then take you right to the
> > point.
> >
> > but in any case, we'd have to get someone to start using
> them so we can
> > show people who will ultimately pay for them, how useful they are.
> >
> >
> > Chip
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Chip Orange
> > Database Administrator
> > Florida Public Service Commission
> >
> > Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > (850) 413-6314
> >
> > (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not
> > necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lynn Evans
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 3:27 PM
> > To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [tabi] Re: an idea for Nova 2010
> >
> >
> > There was a brief talk at the Monday meeting at the Lighthouse
> > to use some type of tactile marker at the base of each bus
> stop sign to
> > mark the signs position. Some type of raised marker on the sidewalk.
> >
> > Also there is a list of transfer points on the NOVA 2010 site
> > now.
> > Only two points hve audible signals.
> > the link is:
> > http://www.talgov.com/starmetro/nova2010_routes.cfm#3
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > From: Chip Orange <mailto:Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 2:21 PM
> > Subject: [tabi] an idea for Nova 2010
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I know this hasn't been discussed all that much, but one
> > of the potential problems I see with nova 2010 is that a lot, if not
> > all, of the bus stops will be relocating. It seems likely
> that those
> > who have memorized the locations of the current stops will have some
> > difficulty in locating the new stops from just a text description.
> >
> > so, the idea I'd like to hear comment on, is how about
> > use of the devices that I just posted a press release for, the
> > SoundPost? it looks to me if StarMetro, or someone, would
> purchase and
> > install the base stations at the bus stops, and someone
> would buy and
> > distribute for a nominal price the handheld units, these
> would do nicely
> > for helping people locate the stop.
> >
> > the site isn't entirely clear on how they work, so I
> > called the developer, and we spoke for a few minutes. the
> base stations
> > emit an I/R beam, and the hand helds vibrate or beep when you come
> > within range. you can then begin to move the handheld in a circle,
> > aiming it at different directions, and you'll get a strong
> indication as
> > to which direction the beam is coming from, plus a spoken
> identification
> > of the type of installation the unit is placed at (it's any of 185
> > different, predefined, types such as "bus stop", "women's restroom",
> > "government building", etc.). they have a range of about
> 30 meters, or
> > 90 feet.
> >
> > so, does anyone else think these things would be helpful
> > for this project, and should we take this idea to StarMetro?
> >
> > thanks.
> >
> > Chip
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Chip Orange
> > Database Administrator
> > Florida Public Service Commission
> >
> > Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > (850) 413-6314
> >
> > (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author
> > and do not necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service
> > Commission.)
> >
> >
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