[tabi] Re: Saturday Mall idea

  • From: "Tinnetta Cooper" <Lilheart@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • From: "Daniel ben Moshe" <danielbenmoshe1@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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  • Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 06:46:10 -0500


Let's not talk out of both sides of our mouths, ither we want change, or we
don't.  Which is it?  Again, we have been so conditioned to not speak up,
until we mumble.

-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Joe Plummer
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 3:38 PM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: Saturday Mall idea

Ok, you are either happy with the way it is going to be or your not? When
you are talking about altering the way it is going to be then this is not in
favor of the change. What you are saying you are in favor of change with
amendments to the change there forth changing the system the way it is
implement to be.


Sign,
JP ( Joe Plummer)
joeplummer@xxxxxxx

-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Allison and Chip Orange
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:06 PM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: Saturday Mall idea

Just so I'm clear: I'm in favor of the change, I just want them to make the transfer points safer (chirpers don't do it), and go into the malls or other
complexes where folks would otherwise have to walk unsafely to the stop.

Chip


-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Lynn Evans
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 2:02 PM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: Saturday Mall idea

The bus system is ok with me also. I am not saying it can't be improved. In order to make things better there must be change. It would seem to me people
do not like change.

It takes me about an hour to get from my apartment to the Lighthouse on
Cedar Center cort. I have not yet seen any time table for the NOVA 2010 plan
so I would have a compairson..


----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Plummer" <joeplummer@xxxxxxx>
To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 11:04 PM
Subject: [tabi] Re: Saturday Mall idea


Hmm, this is the first I have heard anyone on this list say they were
happy with the bus program. Sounds like you are the minority of the
minority.



Sign,
JP ( Joe Plummer)
joeplummer@xxxxxxx

-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of blindwilly
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 12:14 PM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: Saturday Mall idea

Kevin,

I am very happy with the boards decision.   Although I was not at the
meeting last night, I have been working hard on getting this change to
happen.  Sally and myself too have had a difference of opinion of some
of our friends, but all and all I think it is a good thing and will
make getting across town so much easier.

William



----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Plummer" <joeplummer@xxxxxxx>
To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 3:12 AM
Subject: [tabi] Re: Saturday Mall idea


No, don't hate you but disappointed yes. You knew the concerns of the
minority which is in this case is the (Blind community) and you did
not stand up and represent us by voting NO! You know there is a
saying, Don't forget the little man! We don't ask for much just a
bone with some meat left on it every once in awhile! Some times you
do what is right not what every one else wants you to do. The Right
thing to do this case was to vote NO!
Again don't hate you but very disappointed in you. Yes by the way I
say if we can get just Saturday this is a start. But by know means
the end. Just more of my thoughts.



Sign,
JP ( Joe Plummer)
joeplummer@xxxxxxx

-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of daviska9
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 11:18 PM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: Saturday Mall idea

I'm sorry for being so touchy.  Too many things in my life have made
me a bit too sensitive.



Look, you all should know that the measure passed the TAC
unanimously.  I know that some of you were hoping I would vote no,
and those people probably hate me and will never talk to me again.



As those present at the meeting can tell you, I have been asking
tough questions.  Well, believe it or not, I got some good responses.
StarMetro
went out and got the city engineers involved, and tonight we, the
TAC, were told that the majority of the safety features would be
brought on line before the NOVA 2010 plan comes on line.  Even to the
extent that 15 to
18
of the audible signals will be set up.  Also, I brought up putting
"NO RIGHT ON RED" designations at all of the transfer points.  No
solid answer there, but they did say they would look into what they
could do.  I can say this much for the NOVA 2010 process, that a year
ago I don't think the city engineers would have been as open to
working with mass transit as they are today.  This process has got
more people working together than ever before.



Finally, I am very concerned that if we do not start making some
changes, even the unpopular ones, towards decentralizing the bus
system, that we will be left with a bus system in a few years that
serves the students and not much else.  What I don't want to do, is
stop here.  Mr. Garrison said to me, after being asked, that this is
not an end to the changes, but a beginning.
Your comments that Bruce Weaver and I took to the TAC and StarMetro,
fueled the process of getting the city engineers involved.  Now, keep
the pressure on to continue to improve safety at all intersections.
Maybe we can beat the Dangerous by design label Tallahassee has been
stamped with, but we have a long way to go.  Do not give up on me, I
am trying the best I know, to not give up on you.

Kevin Davis



By the way, I found out that the implementation may be delayed yet
even longer than December of this year by as much as three to eight
months.





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From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Sila Miller
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 9:13 PM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: Saturday Mall idea



Sorry if we were vicious, Kevin. Lets not stop thinking outside the box.
I
just don't want us to be limited.

Say hello to Laurie and the kids.

Sila

----- Original Message -----

From: daviska9 <mailto:daviska9@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 7:44 AM

Subject: [tabi] Saturday Mall idea



So much for me trying to think out of the box.  Sorry to have
troubled you.




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