[tabi] Re: Question & answer about motel and service dogs

  • From: "Joe Plummer" <joeplummer@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 23:56:48 -0400

Yes, it is good business practice. They're not charging for damages before
it happens they are getting a deposit. I my self do not think they are out
side the law. Anyone else would have to put up a deposit even if they were
aloud to have the animal inside the room at all. Just because we are blind
don't make us special. Now I do think we have certain rights as a handy cap
or disable person. But not paying a deposit for your dog or what ever animal
that could or could not cause damage is not one of them. If no damage is
done then you should get your money reimburse . If not this is what the
court of law is for. Just my thoughts.
 


Sign,
Joe Plummer ( JP )
joeplummer@xxxxxxx
 
-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Darla J. Rogers
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 4:21 PM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: Question & answer about motel and service dogs

Um, Joe; my dogs have **never** CREATED A PROBLEM OF ANY KIND **INSIDE** A
HOTEL.  My current dog did have diarrhea in the parking lot which I would
have been happy to reimburse, as I told them about it, and guess what?  The
next day, it was still there.

If a public establishment tries to charge for damages, in advance, they are
breaking the law, and I, for one, will sue, if I must to recoup my losses.

Good business practices?  I don't think so, as it is breaking the laws, both
Federal and state.

Darla



Darla J. Rogers, B.A. Social Science; M.S. Rehabilitation Counselor
Education

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....Ani DiFranco

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Plummer" <joeplummer@xxxxxxx>
To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 4:16 PM
Subject: [tabi] Re: Question & answer about motel and service dogs


>I don't think they are trying to get away with anything. This is just good
> business practice to me. It cost to clean up after a dog or anything. What
> is this we are blind and should get special things done for us. That is 
> not
> right. Yes, I believe that you need some help and we do get it. But come 
> on
> people we are not privilege. This coming from a service dog owner. Use
> common since. More of my thoughts.
>
>
> Sign,
> JP ( Joe Plummer)
> joeplummer@xxxxxxx
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf
> Of Daniel Ben Moshe
> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 2:56 PM
> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [tabi] Re: Question & answer about motel and service dogs
>
> I have never had a problem in hotell stays, things are changing, and where
> ever you are can determen how much they try to get away with. As you said 
> if
> they are taking a depossit, then they should return it, but I have never 
> had
> them ask for a depossit.
>
>
> I'm glad to be your humble and obedient servant,
>
> Zechen Elder Daniel Ben Moshe,
> Benai Yahshuah Synagogue Of Broward County,
> www.theblindcansee.org
> Choose ye this day whom you will serve.  If Yahweh be Elohim, then serve
> him, with all of your hart.  However, if bail be your master.  Then serve
> him.  As for me, and my house.  We choose, to serve Yahweh!
>
> The late Bishop Joe Patterson told a story long ago, when i was a small
> child.  About Elijah, and the 450 false prophets of bail.  He said that
> Elijah, stood, and told the false prophets to go on ahead, because they 
> had
> a much larger program.  He said that they had 450 participants, and he 
> only
> had one.  Elijah, also reminded them, that they had to drag their god up 
> the
> mountain side on an ox cart.  the man of yahweh, also said, that his 
> Elohim
> would be there when he arrived.  He said mockingly,you go on ahead.  Heck,

> I
> will even let you call your god first.  I'M going to take a nap, and when
> you guys finish your foolishness, wake me up. Go ahead now, take your best
> shot.
> Bishop Joe O Patterson
> A blessed memory
> 1963-1989
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf
> Of Joe Plummer
> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 2:02 PM
> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [tabi] Re: Question & answer about motel and service dogs
>
> Well, there is nothing in the ADA or the law saying you can or cannot. Now
> most places has their own policeys weather in writing or just verbal. They
> can say extra for the dog not as like a extra person. But maybe as extra
> cleaning, or even a damage deposit. Now as a deposit you should get your
> money back if the dog has not done any damage. Now I have not ran in to 
> this
> but do not do a lot of staying in rooms. But if I had this kind of 
> business
> I would more than likely consider Extra for the dog for the extra cleaning
> and more than likely a deposit on top for damage if any happen to happen .
> But this my thoughts. Not everyone takes care of their service dog like 
> they
> should and all are not the best mannered.
>
> Sign,
> JP ( Joe Plummer)
> joeplummer@xxxxxxx
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf
> Of Lighthouse of the Big Bend
> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 1:35 PM
> To: tabi
> Cc: fcb-l
> Subject: [tabi] Question & answer about motel and service dogs
>
> Thought some folks might find this interesting... although many may 
> already
> know it : )
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Subject: Question & answer about motel and service dogs
>
> A friend of mine who does training at Hilton Hotels tells me that it is
> illegal to charge extra for a service dog staying in a hotel?  I have been
> charged extra for my dog as we travel at motels by about 15 dollars a room
> for the dog.  There is no problem with getting her in the room - but my
> friend said that they can only charge if the dog does something in the 
> room
> then that is fine.  Their policy for pets staying in the room is $15 a 
> night
> extra.  This was new to me and I told her I could not recall reading
> anything about this under title II.
>
> Could you clarify this for me?
> Thanks
> .....
>
> Answer:
> Hotels are covered by title III, not title II. (Places of public
> accommodation - title III vs. programs and services of state or local
> governments (title II).
>
> The issue you raise concerns an unlawful surcharge.
>
> See http://www.ada.gov/qasrvc.htm , question 7:
>
> 7. Q: Can I charge a maintenance or cleaning fee for customers who bring
> service animals into my business?
>
> A: No. Neither a deposit nor a surcharge may be imposed on an individual
> with a disability as a condition to allowing a service animal to accompany
> the individual with a disability, even if deposits are routinely required
> for pets. However, a public accommodation may charge its customers with
> disabilities if a service animal causes damage so long as it is the 
> regular
> practice of the entity to charge non-disabled customers for the same types
> of damages. For example, a hotel can charge a guest with a disability for
> the cost of repairing or cleaning furniture damaged by a service animal if
> it is the hotel's policy to charge when non-disabled guests cause such
> damage.
>
>
> Marc Dubin, Esq.
> Director of Advocacy
> Center for Independent Living of South Florida www.ADAadvocacyBlog.org
> mdubin@xxxxxxxxx 305-896-3000 mobile
> fax: 877-731-3030
> www.cavnet.org
> EIN: 52-2117529
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