[tabi] Re: Question & answer about motel and service dogs

  • From: "Joe Plummer" <joeplummer@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 00:18:11 -0400

Let me ask you how you know how much hair was left behind, what did your
male dog pee on , what he or she or what ever the animal kind or type of or
whatever chewed on. You don't because you can't see. I don't think I taking
a right away you don't have this to start with. Yes the right to have the
animal and to have it with you . But not to put up a deposit no that is not
aright. Use common since people. This would be like taking your dog or
animal in a restaurant and going up to the buffet with him. I think this is
not respecting other people and not having a animal with all that hair and
his nose wondering about. Common since is not to do this. Ask the waitress
to help you get your plate and take it back to the table. You all need to
have respect for others. How are you going to get respect if you don't give
it. I am a service dog owner also but I respect my fellow man and don't want
to be treated special. I just want to be treated as normal as possible witch
is hard to do given my handicap. This is just my thoughts and you are
welcome for me doing this. Smile! LOL!
 


Sign,
Joe Plummer ( JP )
joeplummer@xxxxxxx
 
-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Darla J. Rogers
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 4:24 PM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: Question & answer about motel and service dogs

Thanks for helping to take away our rights as service animal users, Joe;
maybe you can afford to pay for supercilious charges; send me your address,
so I can send the bill to you while I'm filing a lawsuit abridging my rights
to stay in a public accommodation with my service animal and not be charged
for "extra cleaning" which should not need to be done unless the dog has had
an accident.

Darla



Darla J. Rogers, B.A. Social Science; M.S. Rehabilitation Counselor
Education

djrogers0628@xxxxxxxxxxx

Home phone #:  850-329-7437
Cell #:  850-443-3571

Skype ID: wildflower0628
I suited up for the long walk back to myself...
....Ani DiFranco

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Plummer" <joeplummer@xxxxxxx>
To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 4:10 PM
Subject: [tabi] Re: Question & answer about motel and service dogs


> Well, that might be the policy of that place. But different places will 
> have
> different policies. I dis agree I don't think he has a case. They did not
> refuse him to let his dog stay They just charge a service charge for the 
> dog
> not because he was taking up a space but for more than likely the extra
> cleanup and inconvenient they had. This is my thoughts. Oh by the way I 
> have
> a service dog also. I myself would not think anything about the extra 
> money
> if they told me it will cost extra and the amount. Again my thoughts.
>
>
> Sign,
> JP ( Joe Plummer)
> joeplummer@xxxxxxx
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf
> Of Daniel Ben Moshe
> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 2:43 PM
> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [tabi] Re: Question & answer about motel and service dogs
>
> I use to work at the Marriott, and the polocy was exactly that.  They 
> can't
> charge you for your service animal, unless something happens.  If they are
> doing this, you may have a case to make an issue.  To me that is 
> extortion,
> because this is tarting to happen in even cabs. In the miami aria, and 
> even
> in some eating astablishments.
>
>
> I'm glad to be your humble and obedient servant,
>
> Zechen Elder Daniel Ben Moshe,
> Benai Yahshuah Synagogue Of Broward County,
> www.theblindcansee.org
> Choose ye this day whom you will serve.  If Yahweh be Elohim, then serve
> him, with all of your hart.  However, if bail be your master.  Then serve
> him.  As for me, and my house.  We choose, to serve Yahweh!
>
> The late Bishop Joe Patterson told a story long ago, when i was a small
> child.  About Elijah, and the 450 false prophets of bail.  He said that
> Elijah, stood, and told the false prophets to go on ahead, because they 
> had
> a much larger program.  He said that they had 450 participants, and he 
> only
> had one.  Elijah, also reminded them, that they had to drag their god up 
> the
> mountain side on an ox cart.  the man of yahweh, also said, that his 
> Elohim
> would be there when he arrived.  He said mockingly,you go on ahead.  Heck,

> I
> will even let you call your god first.  I'M going to take a nap, and when
> you guys finish your foolishness, wake me up. Go ahead now, take your best
> shot.
> Bishop Joe O Patterson
> A blessed memory
> 1963-1989
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf
> Of Lighthouse of the Big Bend
> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 1:35 PM
> To: tabi
> Cc: fcb-l
> Subject: [tabi] Question & answer about motel and service dogs
>
> Thought some folks might find this interesting... although many may 
> already
> know it : )
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Subject: Question & answer about motel and service dogs
>
> A friend of mine who does training at Hilton Hotels tells me that it is
> illegal to charge extra for a service dog staying in a hotel?  I have been
> charged extra for my dog as we travel at motels by about 15 dollars a room
> for the dog.  There is no problem with getting her in the room - but my
> friend said that they can only charge if the dog does something in the 
> room
> then that is fine.  Their policy for pets staying in the room is $15 a 
> night
> extra.  This was new to me and I told her I could not recall reading
> anything about this under title II.
>
> Could you clarify this for me?
> Thanks
> .....
>
> Answer:
> Hotels are covered by title III, not title II. (Places of public
> accommodation - title III vs. programs and services of state or local
> governments (title II).
>
> The issue you raise concerns an unlawful surcharge.
>
> See http://www.ada.gov/qasrvc.htm , question 7:
>
> 7. Q: Can I charge a maintenance or cleaning fee for customers who bring
> service animals into my business?
>
> A: No. Neither a deposit nor a surcharge may be imposed on an individual
> with a disability as a condition to allowing a service animal to accompany
> the individual with a disability, even if deposits are routinely required
> for pets. However, a public accommodation may charge its customers with
> disabilities if a service animal causes damage so long as it is the 
> regular
> practice of the entity to charge non-disabled customers for the same types
> of damages. For example, a hotel can charge a guest with a disability for
> the cost of repairing or cleaning furniture damaged by a service animal if
> it is the hotel's policy to charge when non-disabled guests cause such
> damage.
>
>
> Marc Dubin, Esq.
> Director of Advocacy
> Center for Independent Living of South Florida www.ADAadvocacyBlog.org
> mdubin@xxxxxxxxx 305-896-3000 mobile
> fax: 877-731-3030
> www.cavnet.org
> EIN: 52-2117529
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