[tabi] Re: Online Courses

  • From: "Bubba" <bubbathegeek@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 00:45:49 -0400

Yes, it is yours. Don't know why. It is just yours. 



Bubba
bubbathegeek@xxxxxxxxx

-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Governor Staten
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 12:20 AM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: Online Courses

He's speaking of my messages. I have to turn it off if it causes problems.

On 6/25/2011 11:03 PM, Allison and Chip Orange wrote:
> Which messages?  those from Governor?  or just this one?
>
> you said you can read other messages from TABI, so which ones can you 
> not read?
>
> I don't have any real ideas, but that would help.  you could also 
> google this error, along with "outlook 2010" to see what you come up 
> with, as I'd guess it's something in your settings.
>
> Chip
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf Of Bubba
> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 10:06 PM
> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [tabi] Re: Online Courses
>
> Hi, when I keep getting this chip It says something about a signature 
> is not valid and I cannot read the message at all. Using outlook 2010 
> and don't have a problem with other messages from TABI. What is the deal?
>
>
> Bubba
> bubbathegeek@xxxxxxxxx
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf Of Governor Staten
> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 9:04 PM
> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [tabi] Re: Online Courses
>
> for those who can't learn it, we can help you. How will you know if 
> you don't receive proper instruction on it? It's like having the race 
> rigged against you before you even run out of the blocks. Speech 
> recognition might offer you hope too.
>
> On 6/25/2011 7:29 PM, Charles Atkins wrote:
>
>       I love the computer and what it stands for, great tool!  The best.
> Had it come as an organ in our bodies, we'd all get it!  Teachers can 
> tell some students a million times through an entire life time, and 
> yet, many many many still won't get it by default gentlemen and 
> others!  They are not stupid!  It is just not what they are cut out for!
>       
>       Technology is just you guys forte and thank God there are some of
you 
> around, usually to tell the others what to do!  Technology is here, 
> I'm sure to stay, as it should, but, I pray, someday, the computer 
> evolves and become automatic (every single function).
>       
>       
>       Thanks for listening!
>       
>       
>
>               ----- Original Message -----
>               From: Allison and Chip Orange<mailto:acorange@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>               To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>               Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 7:03 PM
>               Subject: [tabi] Re: Online Courses
>
>               this is a very very good point Governor!
>               
>               I've seen some assistive technology instructors simply
giving the 
> student keystrokes to memorize, with no explanation as to which ones 
> were a screen reader command, and which (such as windows-M or even 
> tabbing between controls of a dialog) were windows commands, and so 
> would work for sighted people or with another screen reader.
>               
>               Place such students in a slightly different environment (say
with 
> another screen reader), and they have no idea what they can and can't 
> use.
>               
>               Chip
>               
>
> ________________________________
>
>               From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Governor Staten
>               Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 2:47 PM
>               To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>               Subject: [tabi] Re: Online Courses
>               
>               
>               There is a deeper problem here too. When you teach a person
how to 
> use a screen reader and not the operating system, Windows for example, 
> you're headed for trouble. They rely on that screen reader to do 
> everything for them. Learn Windows first, and then, learn screen 
> reader commands on top of that. What makes something accessible? It 
> could be that you might not know what you need to know to use the 
> site, or it could truly be inaccessible. Which scenario are we talking
about here?
>               
>               On 6/25/2011 12:44 PM, Charles Atkins wrote:
>
>                       I know Hadley is cool; I had classes with them
before!
>                       
>                       I'm more worried that, more than should have to,
students that are 
> visually impaired are not, independently, sailing and are needing 
> outside assistance far too often and instructors are being permitted 
> to feel comfortable with having them do it.
>                       
>                       
>                       
>                       
>
>                               ----- Original Message -----
>                               From: Lynn Evans
> <mailto:evans-lynn@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>                               To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>                               Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 12:33 PM
>                               Subject: [tabi] Re: Online Courses
>
>                               It is hard to say Charles
>                               The classes over the internet would be 100%
accessible.
>                               The Excel class They mailed me the workbook
and I used my CCTV and 
> emailed them my test. I thought it was quite accessible.
>                               The coarse on the Old Testament was on audio
tape and I emailed 
> them the test.
>                               
>                               Hadley is the school for the blind so it has
to be accessible.
>                               
>
>                                       ----- Original Message -----
>                                       From: Charles Atkins
> <mailto:catkins@xxxxxxx>
>                                       To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>                                       Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 8:38
> AM
>                                       Subject: [tabi] Re: Online Courses
>
>                                       But how would you score Lynn?
>                                       
>                                       And:
>                                       
>                                       Thanks!
>                                       
>                                       
>
>                                               ----- Original Message -----
>
>                                               From: Lynn Evans
> <mailto:evans-lynn@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>                                               To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>                                               Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011
> 8:24 PM
>                                               Subject: [tabi] Re: Online
> Courses
>
>                                               Let's not forget
>                                               
>                                               The Hadley school has
> computer classes and they are free.
>                                               
>                                               I beta tested an Excel
> coarse a few years ago and learned a lot.
>                                               
>                                               coarse listings at:
>       
> http://www.hadley.edu/2_g_CourseCatalog.asp
>                                               
>
>                                                       ----- Original
> Message -----
>                                                       From: Charles Atkins
> <mailto:catkins@xxxxxxx>
>                                                       To:
> tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>                                                       Sent: Friday, June
> 24, 2011 4:21 PM
>                                                       Subject: [tabi] Re:
> Online Courses
>
>                                                       To add:
>                                                       
>                                                       Some people can't
> really get the "technical" theory together but, need the computer just as
> much as the rest of the world does.  For them, a series of nice recordings
> of skilled users of Jaws and other speech and audible program, succeeding
> and sort of describing as they are going along so, would, I believe, be an
> enormous help.
>                                                       
>                                                       A very thoughtful
> world would realize that by default, many, won't be able to be adept at
> using computers, just as, many, will!
>                                                       
>                                                       Everybody can
> breathe and eat and such, but, everybody can't perform all skills with an
> equal degree of proficiency.
>                                                       
>                                                       I've known many
> people with all of their vision, and other faculties, but, couldn't even,
> drive a car, nor, swim and more!
>                                                       
>                                                       
>                                                       
>                                                       
>
>                                                               -----
> Original Message -----
>                                                               From:
> Tinetta Cooper<mailto:lilheart@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>                                                               To:
> tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>                                                               Sent:
> Friday, June 24, 2011 12:25 PM
>                                                               Subject:
> [tabi] Re: Online Courses
>
>                                                               I would
> score accessibility as an 8.  Are you doing a survey?
>                                                               
>
>       
> ----- Original Message -----
>       
> From: Charles Atkins<mailto:catkins@xxxxxxx>
>                                                                       To:
> tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>       
> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 10:47 AM
>       
> Subject: [tabi] Re: Online Courses
>
>                                                                       Are
> you prepared to say, then:  From 1 to 10, fairly accessible scores a
>                                                                       
>       
> What?
>                                                                       
>       
> Thanks!
>                                                                       
>                                                                       
>
>       
> ----- Original Message -----
>       
> From: Tinetta Cooper<mailto:lilheart@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>       
> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>       
> Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 10:11 AM
>       
> Subject: [tabi] Re: Online Courses
>
>       
> Charles,
>       
> I have taken online courses at TCC, and will be taking another in the
fall.
>       
> Once you learn to navigate the Blackboard web page, it is fairly
accessible.
> Blackboard is the main page for most colleges and universities.  Course
work
> may involve other applications, such as Excel, Word, Access, and
PowerPoint.
> While these programs are not as accessible, instructors are very helpful
in
> making materials easier to use.  I even had communication with a blind
> professor at FSU who consulted with one of my professors.  This was
> regarding an online course in macroeconomics.
>       
> I hope this information is helpful.
>       
>
>       
> Tinetta
>
>       
> ----- Original Message -----
>       
> From: Charles Atkins<mailto:catkins@xxxxxxx>
>       
> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>       
> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 11:13 PM
>       
> Subject: [tabi] Online Courses
>
>       
> Anyone taking online courses in our group?
>       
>
>       
> Are you getting the job done independently?
>       
>
>       
> Has any leaders of the blind made a list of schools and universities which
> are accessible and, not accessible?
>       
>
>       
> Is it a website?
>       
>
>       
> Thanks!
>       
>
>       
> Charles Atkins
>       
>
>       
>
>       
>
>
>
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