[tabi] Re: Gov Scott's Transition Team may be thinking about if one agency should serve all disabilities...

  • From: "Allison and Chip Orange" <acorange@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 21:24:26 -0500

Daniel,

I've asked you nicely; once more with the name calling and such and you'll
go on moderation.

Chip
 

-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Daniel Ben Moshe
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 8:38 PM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: Gov Scott's Transition Team may be thinking about if one
agency should serve all disabilities...

Well if we could get him out of the state we will be doing good, but I know
we are stuck with that thing for four years.  See this is why we must vote
when election time comes around, because now look we have a crook in
tallahassee.   


I'm glad to be your humble and obedient servant,

Zechen Elder Daniel Ben Moshe,
B'ni Yahshuah Synagogue Of Broward County, www.theblindcansee.org Choose ye
this day whom you will serve.  If YHWH be Elohim, then serve him, with all
of your heart.  However, if baal be your god, then serve him.  As for me,
and my house.  We choose to serve YHWH! 
 
The late Bishop Joe O Patterson told a story long ago, when i was a small
child.  about the show down, between Elijah, and the 450 false prophets of
baal. He shared with us how Elijah, stood, and told the false prophets to go
on ahead,and call their god first.   Because they had a much larger program.
He talked about how they had 450 participants to introduce. Elijah was so
sure of YHWH, he with confidence said, that he only had one.  Elijah also
reminded them, that they had to drag their fake god up the mountain side on
an ox cart.  Elijah also announced to the world, that his Elohim would be
there when he arrived.  He said mockingly, you go on ahead.  Heck, I will
even let you have prime time.  I'M going to take a nap, and when you guys
finish your foolishness, wake me up.  Go ahead now, take your best shot. 
Bishop Joe O Patterson
A blessed memory 
1963-1989   
-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Joe Plummer
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 6:45 PM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: Gov Scott's Transition Team may be thinking about if one
agency should serve all disabilities...

Yes, and he has become a billionaire with doing this crooked business
practice. He made millions if not billions off the state of Florida and the
Federal government from medicate and med care questionable practice. Yes, he
intends to run it like his version of business. Lets get to work! Yep that
is right. Lets get to work an put the most needed people out there in limbo.
Let us stream line government and make it more efficient by making mega
divisions and just doing away with divisions that get in the way of my
agenda. Yell let's get to work! Right!
 


sign,
Joe Plummer (JP)
joeplummer@xxxxxxx
 
-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Daniel Ben Moshe
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 4:59 PM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: Gov Scott's Transition Team may be thinking about if one
agency should serve all disabilities...

Well you guys had better hope not because every business he ran had huge
problems.   


I'm glad to be your humble and obedient servant,

Zechen Elder Daniel Ben Moshe,
B'ni Yahshuah Synagogue Of Broward County, www.theblindcansee.org Choose ye
this day whom you will serve.  If YHWH be Elohim, then serve him, with all
of your heart.  However, if baal be your god, then serve him.  As for me,
and my house.  We choose to serve YHWH! 
 
The late Bishop Joe O Patterson told a story long ago, when i was a small
child.  about the show down, between Elijah, and the 450 false prophets of
baal. He shared with us how Elijah, stood, and told the false prophets to go
on ahead,and call their god first.   Because they had a much larger program.
He talked about how they had 450 participants to introduce. Elijah was so
sure of YHWH, he with confidence said, that he only had one.  Elijah also
reminded them, that they had to drag their fake god up the mountain side on
an ox cart.  Elijah also announced to the world, that his Elohim would be
there when he arrived.  He said mockingly, you go on ahead.  Heck, I will
even let you have prime time.  I'M going to take a nap, and when you guys
finish your foolishness, wake me up.  Go ahead now, take your best shot. 
Bishop Joe O Patterson
A blessed memory 
1963-1989   
-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Darla J. Rogers
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 4:53 PM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: Gov Scott's Transition Team may be thinking about if one
agency should serve all disabilities...

Dear Charles and others following this thread,

If we don't give our input now--and take action if needed--it will be too
late, as Gov. Scott probably wants to run the state, like a business,
especially if his companies willprofit.

Darla


----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Atkins" <catkins@xxxxxxx>
To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 3:51 PM
Subject: [tabi] Re: Gov Scott's Transition Team may be thinking about if one
agency should serve all disabilities...


> Good advice!
>
> Let's not get alarmed!
>
> I know for a fact though, Most people would rather be anything but 
> blind and, most, will tell you so!
>
> I don't think they're saying, anything but, let's protect these poor 
> blind people and keep them out of harms way, and, we can certainly 
> appreciate their wanting to protect us, we would rather have the tools 
> to protect ourselves though!
>
> We should listen to  what he has to say and I'm sure he is planning on 
> having us be instrumental in devising this plan!
>
> How else could he know what our needs are?
>
> I don't think the public of so called: normal people are oblivious to 
> our many accomplishments and all of the enormous obstacles 
> andstumbleing blocks we've danced around without their believing we, 
> even,
could!
>
> We convinced them though!
>
> Yes!
> They can do things!
>
> Is what they are saying of us!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Daniel Ben Moshe" <danielbenmoshe1@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 12:34 PM
> Subject: [tabi] Re: Gov Scott's Transition Team may be thinking about 
> if one agency should serve all disabilities...
>
>
>> Remember he is from south Florida, this is how the people down here 
>> feel about Blindness, and other disabilities. They don't know any 
>> better, they think we are all the same. They don't see any difference 
>> between blind, and being mentally disabled If you don't believe me, 
>> just ask anybody who lives in south Florida now, and they will tell 
>> you that there is no difference. That's how they can put everybody 
>> under one umbrella, because they don't see a difference between Blind
people and other disabilities.
>> Get ready because he is going to introduce this south Florida mindset 
>> into north Florida. We call it down here a  primitive, archaic, 
>> savage mindset about blindness, and other disabilities.  This man 
>> knows nothing about persons with disabilities.  That's the whole 
>> problem is that he knows nothing along with the rest of south 
>> Florida, and now they want to tell us how to manage the Blind, and 
>> Disabled communities. North Florida this is what's coming people from 
>> south Florida who  know nothing trying to manage a huge problem. So I 
>> would at least start asking questions, lets not get alarmed, but lets 
>> be
aware.
>>
>>
>> I'm glad to be your humble and obedient servant,
>>
>> Zechen Elder Daniel Ben Moshe,
>> B'ni Yahshuah Synagogue Of Broward County, www.theblindcansee.org 
>> Choose ye this day whom you will serve.  If YHWH be Elohim, then 
>> serve him, with all of your heart.  However, if Baal be your god, 
>> then serve him.  As for me, and my house.  We choose to serve YHWH!
>>
>> The late Bishop Joe O Patterson told a story long ago, when I was a 
>> small child.  about the show down, between Elijah, and the 450 false 
>> prophets of Baal. He shared with us how Elijah, stood, and told the 
>> false
prophets
>> to go on ahead, and call their god first.   Because they had a much 
>> larger program.  He talked about how they had 450 participants to 
>> introduce. Elijah was so sure of YHWH, he with confidence said, that 
>> he only had one. Elijah also reminded them, that they had to drag 
>> their fake god up the mountain side on an ox cart.  Elijah also 
>> announced to the world, that his Elohim would be there when he 
>> arrived.  He said mockingly, you go on ahead.  Heck, I will even let 
>> you
have prime time.
>> I'M going to take a nap, and when you guys finish your foolishness, 
>> wake me up.  Go ahead now, take your best shot.
>> Bishop Joe O Patterson
>> A blessed memory
>> 1963-1989
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
>> Behalf Of blindwilly
>> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 10:21 AM
>> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [tabi] Re: Gov Scott's Transition Team may be thinking about 
>> if one agency should serve all disabilities...
>>
>> Barbara,
>>
>> What is the e-mail address where I might send a post speaking against 
>> this proposal.  I do not want to be put in the category of people 
>> with autism and mentally disable.  Please God, don't put me in the 
>> category of people who can't tie there shoes.
>>
>> William
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Lighthouse of the Big Bend" <lighthousebigbend@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 3:56 PM
>> Subject: [tabi] Gov Scott's Transition Team may be thinking about if 
>> one agency should serve all disabilities...
>>
>>
>>> Consumer groups of the Blind/VI may want to get involved, as it 
>>> looks like Gov Scott's Transition Team may be thinking about whether 
>>> one agency should serve everyone with disabilities...
>>>
>>> 12-8-10
>>> Single Department Concept
>>> A New Service Delivery System for the 21St Century
>>>
>>> The purpose of this proposal is to illustrate a method by which 
>>> Florida can create a single, efficient, consumer driven and 
>>> community
>>> -- based service delivery system to provide services to the over 6 
>>> million persons with disabilities in Florida. The ultimate goal is 
>>> to reduce administrative costs and increase access to services and 
>>> service dollars; create a more efficient, fraud resistant billing 
>>> system and create an economic stimulus creating new private sector 
>>> jobs.
>>> . Combining all of the programs and services for persons With 
>>> disabilities, including the Florida Medicaid Waiver programs, under 
>>> one department`-. will enable the State to move precious resources 
>>> to actual service delivery for persons with:.disabilities and 
>>> seniors across the disability spectrum and Recycle.
>>> . This department can have one point of entry with a standardized 
>>> application, eligibility criteria, provider qualifications, and 
>>> provider rates for all services and programs.
>>> . Creation of new jobs in the areas of core munity - based service 
>>> delivery and fraud prevention methods. This would mean the 
>>> recruitment of new entrepreneurial minded providers into the system
statewide.
>>> To accomplish this goal, certain units can be removed from current 
>>> departments and placed in the new departmental structure. Personnel 
>>> requirements will then be determined, based on the overall 
>>> organization. Departments effected:
>>> . Agency for Healthcare Administration (AHCA), the . Department of 
>>> Health (DOH), the . Department of Children and Families (DCF), the .
>>> Department of Eider Affairs(CARES), the . Department of Education 
>>> (Vocational Rehabilitation and Division of Blind Services), and .
>>> The Agency for"Persons with Disabilities As this new department is 
>>> being physically formed, a new philosophy will also be nurtured. A 
>>> philosophy of ingenuity, creativity, and an entrepreneurial spirit, 
>>> where employees are encouraged to think "outside of the box" to 
>>> solve the problems we will face in the coming years. We must 
>>> encourage unique, public - private partnerships at every level, in 
>>> order to maximize our precious resources. This includes private 
>>> entity investment into not only service provision but employment 
>>> opportunities for persons with disabilities. It is only through this 
>>> "rebirth" of the physical and philosophical can we have a department 
>>> that is truly responsive to our citizens.
>>>
>>> In Florida, every day over 6 million persons, with identified or 
>>> self-reported disabilities study, live, play, and work. The vast 
>>> majority of persons with disabilities can secure and maintain full 
>>> or part -- time competitive employment. They exhibit more courage 
>>> and fortitude daily than some people do in a lifetime. These 
>>> Floridians do not want a hand out but a hand up, a chance to 
>>> maximize their individual independence and to be as included in 
>>> their community as they wish, This untapped resource of ready and 
>>> willing potential employees should not be ignored.
>>>
>>> Having all disability programs and services, including Medicaid 
>>> Waivers located within one department, will:
>>>
>>> Streamline the application, eligibility, and acceptance process for 
>>> consumers and providers.
>>>
>>> Eliminate the "silo" effect, bringing all state organizations 
>>> working with persons with disabilities under one organizational plan 
>>> and chain of command.
>>>
>>> Reduce redundant administrative costs to include office space and 
>>> other such equipment.
>>>
>>> Create new private sector opportunities for persons who become 
>>> disabled as adults. Require anyone wishing to file for federal 
>>> disability programs to register with Vocational Rehabilitation.
>>> Begin early working with the person focusing on ways to maximize 
>>> his/her abilities. in many cases, it may be possible for the person 
>>> with the disability to emerge with a better, more lucrative career.
>>>
>>> The department will maximize existing resources, such as using the 
>>> Clearinghouse on Disability Information to:
>>> Maintain one website for all information on disabilities.
>>> Operate a single toll-free phone number with accessibility built 
>>> into the system. Have a dedicated information referral system that 
>>> not only serves consumers, but providers and other state agencies.
>>>
>>> ? Allow the department to standardize the processes to determine 
>>> eligibility (one assessment instrument), provider qualifications and 
>>> enrollment, service limitations, rates of pay, nursing home 
>>> transition initiatives, etc.
>>>
>>> ? Reduce or maintain turnaround time in billing to enable providers 
>>> to receive pay for services in a timely fashion, while cutting down 
>>> on potential fraud.
>>>
>>> Through a coordinated, functional needs based system, all 
>>> individuals with disabilities will have their needs assessed and 
>>> identified by a Global Assessment with a single Case Plan.
>>>
>>> Bryan F. Vaughan, MS Executive Director Commission on Disabilities
>>>
>>> 1217/2010 Page 2 of 4
>>>
>>> .:. Adapt the existing iBudget algorithm across the disabilities 
>>> spectrum to ensure a consistent and efficient distribution of scarce 
>>> resources.
>>>
>>> :. Serve consumers and providers will be served in a timelier and 
>>> more consistent manner statewide.
>>> One standardized assessment instrument to determine risk of 
>>> institutionalization and eligibility for waiver services would 
>>> ensure services are provided to those most in need and would reduce 
>>> the number of individuals currently on wait lists for the various
waivers.
>>> Provider qualifications and rate of pay will be consistent and allow 
>>> them to serve all populations without having to apply to work with 
>>> multiple waivers and organizations. The Legislature will only need 
>>> to deal with one budget to fund all the waivers. The processes for 
>>> being placed on a wait list will be standardized throughout all the 
>>> individual waivers.
>>> Funding for community-based, long-term care services would be more 
>>> equitable for each of the disability groups competing for limited 
>>> resources.
>>>
>>>
>>> Note: Some agencies may be reluctant' to relinquish administration 
>>> of their waiver programs. Consumers and providers currently being 
>>> served by the various waivers may be impacted if service limitations 
>>> and rates of pay are standardized. Use of the iBudget algorithm will 
>>> ensure a person's needs are met in an effective manner. Some 
>>> individual disability groups may be concerned about any change in 
>>> the current structure which can be mitigated through an appropriate 
>>> public information program.
>>> Evidence to Support Single Department
>>>
>>> The states of Illinois and Vermont have already gone to the single 
>>> entity system with good results. Real Choice Systems Change Grant 
>>> Program, Third Year Report: Progress and Challenges of the FY 2002 
>>> and FY 2003 Grantees: (October 1, 2003 -- September 30, 2004) Final 
>>> Report.
>>> Consolidation
>>>
>>> The Governor's Commission on Disabilities, along with personnel from 
>>> the effected departments, advocates, and providers could work 
>>> towards the planning, development, and implementation of this single 
>>> department.
>>>
>>> Planning & Timeline
>>> Planning could begin to consolidate all programs and services, 
>>> including waivers under one department in the 2010 - 2011 fiscal 
>>> year, with implementation occurring in an on-going basis. Full 
>>> consolidation could take until the 2011 -- 2012 fiscal year.
>>> Estimated Potential Savings
>>> ? A coordinated waiver program would require fewer administrative 
>>> staff, intake and referral staff, provider enrollment staff and 
>>> fiscal staff to moriitorexpenditures.
>>> ? There would be a reduction in allocated office space, expenses;, 
>>> and equipment allocations for personnel due to consolidation into 
>>> one agency. Multiple websites dedicated to the various waivers would 
>>> be reduced.to>one. This would also create a more user friendly, 
>>> accessible system of delivering information. **g Consolidating 
>>> multiple call-centers for consumers and providers would still allow 
>>> calls to be channeled from one line directly to the appropriate 
>>> waiver specialist.
>>>
>>>
>>> Florida currently has a great need for more community - based 
>>> service providers. Partnerships with Colleges of Business at our 
>>> State Universities, as well as the Chamber of Commerce for Persons 
>>> with Disabilities, can promote an entrepreneurial effort to create 
>>> these small provider businesses.
>>>
>>> To reduce fraud, a "call and verify" system can be included as part 
>>> of the billing cycle. When a provider bills the department, a random 
>>> verification system will identify a consumer to be called and asked 
>>> if helshe has received the items or services as billed. This process 
>>> will help prevent discrepancies and false claims as are potential 
>>> risks under the current system. The department can either decide to 
>>> use one or multiple verifying agencies. This can be performed by 
>>> workers from home (enabling persons with disabilities, seniors, or 
>>> others who are transportation
>>> disadvantaged) or a central location.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>> Tallahassee, FL 32301
>>> (850) 942-3658
>>> www.lighthousebigbend.org
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