[tabi] Re: Fw: starmetro info

  • From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:17:45 -0400

Yes, I agree, this is obviously not their goal.





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Chip Orange
Database Administrator
Florida Public Service Commission

Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
(850) 413-6314

 (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lynn Evans
> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 12:17 PM
> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [tabi] Re: Fw: starmetro info
> 
> If they wanted to-do away with public transit this is a 
> strange way to go 
> about it. Wouldn't not it be easier for them to say"on August 
> 1 2010 public 
> transit in Tallahassee as we new it will no longer exist."
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mister Blackjack" <misterblackjack2@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 8:21 AM
> Subject: [tabi] Re: Fw: starmetro info
> 
> 
> > Yes, I think they are really trying to just do away with 
> public transit 
> > that
> > the city or county has to take part in.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Blackjack
> > misterblackjack2@xxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> > Behalf
> > Of Easy Talk
> > Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 6:12 AM
> > To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [tabi] Re: Fw: starmetro info
> >
> > This is pretty shallow thinking,  Yes people rent cars or 
> use cabs, can 
> > you
> > guess why, there is no bus. What other choice do they have.
> >
> > Also I guess going to the listening session didn't do any 
> good.  I ask 
> > them
> > to make the loop on village square behind Publix to no 
> avail.  It seems 
> > like
> > they would listen to my request since going behind Publix 
> would be the 
> > side
> > where cypress point apartments are located and the complex 
> has 300 units.
> >
> > I say considering the facts we have so far and the 
> unwillingness of Star
> > Metro to listen to what the tax payers want that we stand 
> against the
> > Nova210 plan and start writing to city commissioners now to 
> try and kill 
> > the
> > beast.
> >
> > Robert
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Lynn Evans" <evans-lynn@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 4:04 PM
> > Subject: [tabi] Re: Fw: starmetro info
> >
> >
> >> at the first meeting I went to the airport question was 
> brought up. It 
> >> was
> >
> >> broken down into three groups
> >>
> >> students come and go at the beginning and end of school 
> terms. It is hard
> >> to schedule buses around this.
> >> Business travelers use their own transportation either 
> rent a car or cab.
> >> The same thing for tourist.
> >> Busses need to be on a regular schedule each hour. Plains 
> need to match
> >> the bus schedule or vice versa.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Easy Talk" <easytalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 11:12 AM
> >> Subject: [tabi] Re: Fw: starmetro info
> >>
> >>
> >>> They also don't go to the airport which is a city 
> property and could 
> >>> have
> >
> >>> the potential for more riders.
> >>>
> >>> Robert
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>> From: "Mister Blackjack" <misterblackjack2@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 6:29 AM
> >>> Subject: [tabi] Re: Fw: starmetro info
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> That would be counter productive. They should go to all 
> major places
> >>>> like
> >>>> the civic center Tallahassee museum , the malls and 
> libraries and such.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Blackjack
> >>>> misterblackjack2@xxxxxxxxx
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >>>> Behalf
> >>>> Of Lynn Evans
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 9:25 PM
> >>>> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> Subject: [tabi] Re: Fw: starmetro info
> >>>>
> >>>> I would hope businesses world scream bloody murder also. 
> I know the
> >>>> Tallahassee Museum  will no longer receive bus service 
> under the new
> >>>> plan.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>>> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 10:51 AM
> >>>> Subject: [tabi] Re: Fw: starmetro info
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> you know, receivership means only that it will continue 
> to operate;
> >>>>> that's not a valid reason for refusing to serve it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ------------------------------
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Chip Orange
> >>>>> Database Administrator
> >>>>> Florida Public Service Commission
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>> (850) 413-6314
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author 
> and do not
> >>>>> necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service 
> Commission.)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>> [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> >>>>>> ericamccaul@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 9:39 AM
> >>>>>> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>> Subject: [tabi] Re: Fw: starmetro info
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Robert & others,
> >>>>>> Erica here. I passed this info to Sila. I got if from Owen, who
> >>>>>> obtained it from StarMetro directly.
> >>>>>> And, yes, seniors, disabled, and school-age children all pay
> >>>>>> 60 cents.
> >>>>>> I'm pretty sure-- but not positive-- that when a 
> discounted fare is
> >>>>>> deposited, the driver has to push a key-- presumably 
> one of these 3
> >>>>>> categories-- to have the fare box accept it as a valid fare.
> >>>>>> These figures and percentages are from 2008.
> >>>>>> Interestingly, also from 2008, 29,979 people boarded 
> at Governor's
> >>>>>> Square Mall; that's over 85 people per day. There were 
> about 25,000
> >>>>>> people boarding at Tallahassee Mall. There still seems to be no
> >>>>>> concession from StarMetro on going into the malls. The 
> argument for
> >>>>>> Tallahassee Mall, of course, is that since it is already in
> >>>>>> recievership (close to being bankrupt), why bother? 
> This is NOT,
> >>>>>> however, a valid argument, of course, for Governor's Square.
> >>>>>> Another tidbit: In 2008, the malls were the only 2 stops
> >>>>>> among the top
> >>>>>> 20 (most boardings) which were not campus stops (FSU, 
> FAMU, and TCC-- 
> >>>>>> don't recall the order). So, 1) this jives with the 76% of
> >>>>>> riders being
> >>>>>> students figure, and 2) makes it all the more ridiculous that
> >>>>>> they are
> >>>>>> refusing to go into the malls! The manager at Gov. 
> Square said he is
> >>>>>> totally in favor of the buses continuing to come into 
> "his" mall...
> >>>>>> StarMetro is going to try to make the mall put up any money
> >>>>>> that would
> >>>>>> be needed for "improvements" to make the parking lot 
> traverse safe.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: Easy Talk <easytalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>> Sent: Tue, Oct 27, 2009 12:09 pm
> >>>>>> Subject: [tabi] Fw: starmetro info
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Here is a message Sila sent to me.  Not sure where she 
> got the info
> >>>>>> though.
> >>>>>> I find it interesting that Star metro has such stats 
> available.  I
> >>>>>> guess
> >>>>>> they get them from the fair boxes and sales of bus 
> passes but if the
> >>>>>> disabled fair and seniors pay the same, how do they 
> determine between
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> two.  That said not counting the regular riders 
> approximately 14.3
> >>>>>> percent
> >>>>>> of riders could be disenfranchised and most certainly some of
> >>>>>> the other
> >>>>>> riders.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>> From: "Sila Miller" <MillerSi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>> To: <easytalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <silam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 11:10 AM
> >>>>>> Subject: starmetro info
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 89 thousand seniors
> >>>>>> 53 thousand disabled
> >>>>>> out of the 4.2 million
> >>>>>> 3 quarters of those were covered under university contracts
> >>>>>> Thus out of the approximate 1 million left,
> >>>>>> 5.3 percent disabled
> >>>>>> 9 percent seniors
> >>>>>> so, disabled not such a small percentage after all
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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