[tabi] Re: Fw: starmetro info

  • From: "Charles Atkins" <catkins@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:30:33 -0400

Thanks!

----- Original Message ----- From: "Blackjack" <misterblackjack2@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 11:08 AM
Subject: [tabi] Re: Fw: starmetro info


You have said a mouth full. Like the old saying goes you reap what you sow.
So if you don't sow anything or what you sow is bad seed then that is what
you reap!




Thanks,
Blackjack
misterblackjack2@xxxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Charles Atkins
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 10:55 AM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: Fw: starmetro info

Also tell them that they are missing half their blessings!

Because if they would put as much money in to making us a door to door
system,

we might be fewer in number, but,

we would probably use it enough for the city to finally make a sizable
profit.

I say that because non disable people with their own vehicles,

use them and don't just have them parked in the garage or drive way.

If they would put just as much money in to accessibility of the disabled
population.

Make the system a lot less personal as the system is for the non disabled
(nobody knows where they are going when they ride the buses and why should
they know where we're going all the time)? or, should have to call twenty
four hours in advance?

It is not equal treatment!  It is not ADA!

All they need is your name and your riding pass you carry on your person and
your fare and you visit Tom, dick or Harry when ever you wish.

I say door to door mapping system with our vehicles amply staffed, and
passing by all the time, would get us up and going, putting us more in the
market to compete and participate more in life as usual for  our
counterparts.

It would be almost like we were owning our own vehicles, or, not too far off
the mark.

That's more like equality.

If they would put more in,

they would get more out.

They don't put nothing in and nothing can come out.
Nothing can come of all this planning they have to make before one of us can
ride!

I don't know how much the normal system costs, I don't have the figures in
front of me, but,

were they to spend just as much on our equilibrium,

they'd find it just as beneficial to the environment.

They are not seeing the whole picture!

They can't see for looking, or, not!

That's how I see it!

Thanks!


Charles Atkins


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lynn Evans" <evans-lynn@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 8:22 AM
Subject: [tabi] Re: Fw: starmetro info


So, Mr. Blackjack,  if you haven't added your voice already , please tell
Star Metro what you just told the rest of us.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mister Blackjack" <misterblackjack2@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 6:29 AM
Subject: [tabi] Re: Fw: starmetro info


That would be counter productive. They should go to all major places like
the civic center Tallahassee museum , the malls and libraries and such.




Thanks,
Blackjack
misterblackjack2@xxxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
Of Lynn Evans
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 9:25 PM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: Fw: starmetro info

I would hope businesses world scream bloody murder also. I know the
Tallahassee Museum  will no longer receive bus service under the new
plan.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 10:51 AM
Subject: [tabi] Re: Fw: starmetro info


you know, receivership means only that it will continue to operate;
that's not a valid reason for refusing to serve it.






------------------------------

Chip Orange
Database Administrator
Florida Public Service Commission

Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
(850) 413-6314

(Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not
necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.)


-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
ericamccaul@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 9:39 AM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: Fw: starmetro info

Robert & others,
Erica here. I passed this info to Sila. I got if from Owen, who
obtained it from StarMetro directly.
And, yes, seniors, disabled, and school-age children all pay
60 cents.
I'm pretty sure-- but not positive-- that when a discounted fare is
deposited, the driver has to push a key-- presumably one of these 3
categories-- to have the fare box accept it as a valid fare.
These figures and percentages are from 2008.
Interestingly, also from 2008, 29,979 people boarded at Governor's
Square Mall; that's over 85 people per day. There were about 25,000
people boarding at Tallahassee Mall. There still seems to be no
concession from StarMetro on going into the malls. The argument for
Tallahassee Mall, of course, is that since it is already in
recievership (close to being bankrupt), why bother? This is NOT,
however, a valid argument, of course, for Governor's Square.
Another tidbit: In 2008, the malls were the only 2 stops
among the top
20 (most boardings) which were not campus stops (FSU, FAMU, and TCC-- don't recall the order). So, 1) this jives with the 76% of
riders being
students figure, and 2) makes it all the more ridiculous that
they are
refusing to go into the malls! The manager at Gov. Square said he is
totally in favor of the buses continuing to come into "his" mall...
StarMetro is going to try to make the mall put up any money
that would
be needed for "improvements" to make the parking lot traverse safe.

-----Original Message-----
From: Easy Talk <easytalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tue, Oct 27, 2009 12:09 pm
Subject: [tabi] Fw: starmetro info

Here is a message Sila sent to me.  Not sure where she got the info
though.
I find it interesting that Star metro has such stats available.  I
guess
they get them from the fair boxes and sales of bus passes but if the
disabled fair and seniors pay the same, how do they determine between
the
two.  That said not counting the regular riders approximately 14.3
percent
of riders could be disenfranchised and most certainly some of
the other
riders.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sila Miller" <MillerSi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <easytalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <silam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 11:10 AM
Subject: starmetro info



89 thousand seniors
53 thousand disabled
out of the 4.2 million
3 quarters of those were covered under university contracts
Thus out of the approximate 1 million left,
5.3 percent disabled
9 percent seniors
so, disabled not such a small percentage after all



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