----- Original Message ----- From: Easy Talk To: fcb-l@xxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2012 2:11 PM Subject: [fcb-l] new bus service BRUCE LIPSKY/The Times-Union Arnold McDuffie waits to board a Megabus at the Skyway station near the Prime Osborn Convention Center. The bus was coming from Atlanta and headed to Orlando. Ridership for the express bus trips has steadily grown to where Megabus officials say their 80-seat coaches are 75 to 80 percent full. Information Megabus and Greyhound serve the Jacksonville market. Megabus: us.megabus.com Greyhound: www.greyhound.com By Roger Bull Dennis Loy's car was waiting back in Orlando, at the end of his bus ride. He could have driven that car up to Jacksonville to visit his daughter at the University of North Florida. Instead, he took the bus. And he was about to step on the double-decker Megabus to ride it back. "My daughter's the one who told me about it," he said. "It cost me $24 for a round trip. It would have cost me $60 just in gas to drive." Instead of driving, the 58-year-old pool designer does paperwork. After decades of decline, intercity bus ridership is on the rise, in large part to people like Loy who simply choose to ride rather than drive or fly. Intercity bus ridership grew 7 percent in 2011 and was the only major long-distance passenger transportation that grew significantly, according to a study by the Chaddick Institute for Metropolitan Development at DePaul University in Chicago. The biggest factor is what are called the curbside buses - those that pick up passengers not at a bus station, but simply at a designated place in town. Ridership for those rose 30 percent last year. Megabus, which started sending two buses a day through Jacksonville last November , is the major player in the new wave of buses that are faster and cheaper than those of a decade ago. But even Greyhound has gotten into it with its Greyhound Express service. And, no, it's not just because of the price of gas. "It began with a large number of young people without any particular affinity for the automobile," said Joe Schwieterman, who directed the DePaul report. "They just wanted to go from Point A to Point B." He said his surveys have shown that up to a third of bus riders chose it over flying. What really started the turnaround was the Chinatown buses in the Northeast, said Fred Fravel, a bus specialist from the KFH Group, Maryland-based transportation consultants. Those buses went from a neighborhood, not a bus station, in one city straight to a neighborhood in another city. "Those buses were discovered by the smarter students," Fravel said, "because the travel times were similar to a car. And at the same time, they were cheap." The problem with buses in the past was that they stopped at each town along the way, making a bus ride last up to twice as long as driving, he said. "Who's going to ride a bus in that circumstance except those who do not have a car available?" Fravel said. But using the Chinatown buses' example, Megabus, Boltbus and others created express services. Jacksonville to Orlando is a little more than two hours. They added free wi-fi and outlets to plug laptops in. Schwieterman said his surveys show half the people on Megabus are plugged in, twice the rate of airline passengers. And then there's the cost. Jacksonville to Orlando may be $12 on Megabus, but it could also be less. There's a limited number of random $1 seats on each bus. The earlier you book, the better the chance of getting one. "This never would have happened so fast were it not for the Internet," Schwieterman said. "Electronic ticketing, the schedules, word spreading on Facebook." Still, buses have developed a stigma over the years. As more people got cars, the middle class which used to ride the bus abandoned it. "The poorest group didn't use to travel at all," Schwieterman said. "But now that's what Greyhound is. "And they're still dogged by, I don't know how else to say it, but an unattractive clientele," he said. "People have the image of a bus station as a guy walking around and smelling like wine. "And that's reality as much as perception." As Megabus, BoltBus and others moved into each market, they've generally avoided bus stations. In Jacksonville, Megabus uses the Skyway Express stop near the Prime Osborn Convention Center. And as they expanded outside the major Northeastern cities, they focused on college towns. "Four years ago," Schwieterman said, "Megabus looked like a college charter. Now it's more diverse." Even the traditional giant in the field has gotten into the act. Greyhound Express expanded into Jacksonville in January. Greyhound has 22 routes a day out of its station in downtown Jacksonville; six of them are express. It has the same $1 random seats. Loy said when he first rode the Megabus up to Jacksonville, there were maybe 12 people on it. Now the buses that roll in from Atlanta and Orlando each day are double-deckers that seat 80. Bryony Chamberlain, the company president, said it's usually 75 to 80 percent full. But everyone hasn't found success. Red Coach came into Jacksonville last year , with one bus running north and south between Tampa, Orlando, Daytona Beach and Jacksonville. It only averaged about four riders a day and eight months later it was gone. It's still in 12 other Florida cities and could come back to Jacksonville, a spokeswoman said, but it would probably be for a longer trip, such as to Miami. With all the growth in buses across the country, Fravel said there is one major drawback that few people are noticing. When Megabus moves into a market, it takes a large chunk of the riders off the buses that stop in each town along the way. Then Greyhound adds express, and the regular buses have even few riders. So Greyhound is dropping those routes. "Look at the Pittsburgh-to-D.C. route," he said. "First we had Megabus, then Greyhound Express and all of a sudden we have towns in Western Maryland that don't have bus service. "Two months ago, Hagerstown had five buses a day. Now the buses just go by the interstate." roger.bull@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, (904) 359-4296 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fcb-l mailing list fcb-l@xxxxxxx http://www.acb.org/mailman/listinfo/fcb-l