[tabi] Re: Fw: [fcb-l] Fw: Re: Fw: president's report at fcb convention
- From: "Chip and Allie Orange" <acorange@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 12:44:33 -0400
This is another thing which just kills me; these lighthouses are so small they
don’t even try to support more than one vendor in any area, or do any sort of
meaningful comparisons between vendors, and constantly keep that up to date,
because their person is so busy. If clients went through a large state agency
(such as DBS) there is at least some chance they could hire enough people they
would be able to offer support on many vendors’ products, and thus allow the
client to have some input as to the equipment and products they receive.
Chip
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Easy Talk
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 12:32 PM
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Most of the clients that get equipment went through a lighthouse and the ones
that don't didn't. In fact the lighthouses recommend the technology and vendor
it is purchased from. In fact some preferred benders do the evaluation and
provide the equipment. and in about 99 percent of the recommendations made by
lighthouses are products they use and know. for example very few lighthouses
train on window-eyes, NVDA I phones and android devices. Not to mention all
the cool apps for iphone and android. Still Jaws openbook zoom text Braille
note and that is what blind
people get for all that money.
If anyone on there boards try to affect change or rock the boat, they don't
last long or get tired of fighting a yes board and resign or don't seek
re-appointment.
Robert
Robert
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From: Chip and Allie Orange <mailto:acorange@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 12:01 PM
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Yes Wendy, that’s crazy; lighthouses get paid a bonus for doing their job which
they are already being paid for?
That money could easily buy the client all the assistive technology they could
reasonably need to get going in a new job; tell me, will DBS buy clients all
the assistive tech they need for a new job (in the past I have heard not; that
it’s very difficult to get your needed equipment). If that’s the case, maybe
they should give the bonus money to the client to help get started.
Chip
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Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 6:31 PM
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The lighthouse here got that money from my case this year and did nothing to
help me. G-d and I got my job for me while the lighthouse did nothing but take
the money and run, I could have used that money myself.
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Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 8:49:17 AM
Subject: [tabi] Fw: [fcb-l] Fw: Re: Fw: president's report at fcb convention
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Wendy you are so on target. To strengthen your point, out of over 730 clients
that were sent to lighthouses last year only 12 were gainfully employed not to
mention the millions in contracts it cost the state. DBS could just give the
money to the clients and not have to worry about them again. For the 12 who
were employed the lighthouses receive an additional $5,400 if the employment
last 90 days above all the money they receive for actual training. Sure wish I
could get a contract like that.
.
Robert
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Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 6:31 PM
Subject: [tabi] Re: Fw: [fcb-l] president's report at fcb convention
Robert,
Well said and I agree. It is my personal opinion that FAASB and the
Lighthouses be excluded from the hiring process altogether. It is so unethical
that those who stand gain financially from their friend getting hiring, should
even participate. Money, that is what this whole situation is all about, the
Lighthouses want to continue their overthrow of DBS and continue to become
wealthy from taxpayer dollars which are supposed to be used to assist citizens
with blindness to become employed. As evidenced by the last FAASB cronie to
become director FAASB and the Lighthouses do not care about the good of
citizens with blindness, they just want a friend that will keep the fat
contracts coming. Is there a method for impeaching Mr. Edwards, if so I
encourage the board to move forward with that option. Also, I think we should
all send letters to the governor denouncing his demands. Although, I must say
that I would support a request that current DBS employees not be considered as
most of those in the state office were promoted or brought on by Joyce and can
therefore, not be trusted. I would support Craig in his application for the
job, while he may have been a supporter of NFB at least you knew where he was
coming from, seemed to operate ethically, and you knew he supported the
consumers.
Wendy
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Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 6:18:19 PM
Subject: [tabi] Fw: [fcb-l] president's report at fcb convention
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From: Easy Talk <mailto:Easytalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 5:43 PM
Subject: [fcb-l] president's report at fcb convention
Let me start by saying my remarks are solely my opinion and that I am not
currently a member of FCB and hopefully my remarks will help you all understand
why I am not.
1. In Paul's message this morning it is absolutely clear that Paul made a
decision on his own with out consulting the Executive committee or board in
regards to his demands to the governors office for the requirements for hiring
a new director of DBS To the best of my knowledge. And since FCB is suppose
to be a democratic organization , he is promoting his own political agenda.
In all my years of involvement with FCB I have never seen or never made such a
decision with out approval from the board or at least the executive committee
while I was president regarding such an important issue.
Hopefully Paul's demands outlined below will help you understand where I am
coming from.
1. The new director can not be a former employ who held a higher level position
in DBS. As many of you know Craig Kiser has applied for the directors position
and if this demand is implemented, it would exclude Craig and is intended to
do exactly that. I am not sure if you all are aware but Craig has attempted
to contact Paul via Email and phone to talk to him and ask for FCB's support of
which Mr. Edwards has not responded. What gives him the right to not bring
Craig's request to FCB? Answer, his own political agenda. In the past this has
never been a request of FCB.
2. The new director can not be a current employ of DBS. See number 3. In all
FCB's dealings with the hiring decision of a director, this demand has never
been a requirement and I have no idea what the purpose of this demand means
except it is designed to insure that a FAASB applicant has a better chance and
is meant to get the position. I say this because roomer has it that a
director of one of the larger Lighthouses has applied for the position and is
supposedly being supported by FCB FAASB and NFBF leaders such as there
presidents and not necessarily the majority of what there members have decided
or want.
Were you ask or did you have any input? Why should Faasb be included in the
final decision since they negotiate contracts between the Lighthouses and DBS,
sounds like a conflict of interest to me. Why didn't mar. Edwards exclude
current or former directors of Lighthouses since they are the reason we have
the current mess we have, yet excludes DBS former and current employs of dbs
since these individuals may be some of the most experienced applicants in
the blindness field For example Edward Hudson who did an excellent job during
the town hall meeting. I have no idea if he is interested in the job but if he
is should not be excluded by Mr. Edwards own agenda.
Edward got right to the point and addressed the important issues and
demonstrated his years of experience as director of the center in Daytona.
3. FCB will not except a general administrator as the new director and the
successful applicant must have experience in serving the needs of the blind.
IN the past FCB has never required the director to be blind but has strongly
encouraged this practice and personally I am for the most qualified person but
this means FCB is willing to except a sighted director, and what better pool of
applicants than directors of Lighthouses who are members of FAASB. Here again,
this is to open the door for Paul's own agenda with out consideration from FCB.
How does a organization of the blind exclude certain blind individuals yet
opens the door for FAASB lighthouse directors?
4. Later on in the business meeting, Mr. Edwards took grate pains to say how
Florida was different than other states in the fact that major consumer
organizations and FAASB were in agreement and wanted the same things, My
question to you all is, Do you know what FAASB's, FCB and NFBF's position
really is, have you seen an official statement from any of these organizations?
Has FCB really made an official statement and had proper input to represent the
actual majority of it's members. I don't think so. If we allow this to
continue, Is FCB really affective?
I certainly hope the Governors office is more affective than to allow such
ridiculous demands made by Mr. Edwards to govern there hiring practices and
hope that FCB members stand up and not allow this political sabotage to occur.
It is my intention as a blind citizen to send this message to the governor's
office and under the current conditions, I encourage you if you agree to do the
same.
I joined The Florida Council OF The Blind not The Paul Edwards Council FOR The
blind. Now I am not a member of either. When are you members going to take
back the organization you formed 60 years ago.
I am not at this time going to go in to other issues that affected my decision
to no longer be a member of FCB and I know some of you and Mr. Edwards is aware
of my concerns However they seem to still be his style of administration.
Very sad Robert
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