[tabi] Re: Fw: comments posted on wctv site ref my accident

  • From: Governor Staten <govsta@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 19:28:13 -0400

We need to do something like this in South Fl.

On 8/5/2013 7:10 PM, Easy Talk wrote:
Hi Lynn,
I am all for that and I think one in front of the police department would go a long way.. I have had a lot of calls with support and think we could get a pretty good crowd. A lot of my sighted friends are pretty angry and want to do what ever it takes to get people and law enforcement aware of the problem. We can do something now and again on white cane day and that doesn't mean sitting and walking around Lake ella.
the problem.

    ----- Original Message -----
    *From:* Lynn Evans <mailto:austin.evans60@xxxxxxxxx>
    *To:* tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
    *Sent:* Monday, August 05, 2013 3:53 PM
    *Subject:* [tabi] Re: Fw: comments posted on wctv site ref my accident

    Hello all:
    Using the word "retargeted" in this day and time is like using the
    "N word" Both are highly offensive to specific groups of people.
    So in expressing your outrage at Roberts situation please choose
    your words wisely. The people making disparaging comments are a
    far cry from bing intellectually challenged.  They are quite aware
    of what they are writing and their goal is to provoke a response
    and not to move the dialog along in any positive way.
    The White Cane Law is what it is. The blind community needs to
    promote the awareness of the law. Unfortunately the only time the
    law is brought to the public's attention is the White Cane Day in
    October and whenever a blind person gets knocked down or run over
    by a vehicle.
    Anyone care to picket the intersection at Village Square for an
    hour or more. I don't care to do it all by myself. If you let me
    know the date and time I can meet you there. After all there is
    safety in numbers.
    *From:* Governor Staten <mailto:govsta@xxxxxxxxx>
    *Sent:* Monday, August 05, 2013 1:02 PM
    *To:* tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
    *Subject:* [tabi] Re: Fw: comments posted on wctv site ref my accident
    These guys are obviously retarded in some fundamental way. They
    must think that the disabled are somehow not human, or without
    intellect. Incredible!!
    On 8/5/2013 11:40 AM, Easy Talk wrote:
    ----- Original Message -----
    *From:* Easy Talk <mailto:Easytalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
    *To:* tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
    *Sent:* Monday, August 05, 2013 11:31 AM
    *Subject:* Fw: comments posted on wctv site ref my accident
    ----- Original Message -----
    *From:* Easy Talk <mailto:Easytalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
    *To:* fcb-l@xxxxxxx <mailto:fcb-l@xxxxxxx>
    *Sent:* Monday, August 05, 2013 7:28 AM
    *Subject:* comments posted on wctv site ref my accident
    Thought I would post the comments to save you all the trouble of
    finding them your self since the site isn't all that friendly.
    Just another agenda just like the bicyclisyts who want to own the
    roadways. Why is
    it that when just one person has a problem or an issue, the whole
    world has to change
    their ways to accommodate them? The white cane law is stupid and
    dangerous. Traffic
    flowing smoothly suddenly having to stop at a green light because
    someone raises
    a white cane and just walks in to the road is ridiculous!
    Blink Blogger
    I'm Robert's sister, and it's pretty disheartening to see
    the ignorance and lack of understanding displayed in so many
    comments of
    presumably perfectly sighted individuals! Being blind myself and
    using a white
    cane instead of a guide dog, I've also had two potentially life
    experiences when crossing at the intersection of Crawfordville
    Highway and
    Capital Circle because of drivers who didn't even slow down when
    making a right
    turn on red, much less come to a full stop or "yield the
    (including a dump truck). So I wonder just how many of us will
    have to be
    seriously injured or even killed before SOMEONE DOES SOMETHING
    about the
    obvious danger for visually impaired pedestrians!
    Despite being forced to accept a certain level of dependence
    as the result of our blindness, it seems that doing our utmost to
    maintain as
    much independence as possible when it comes to simply going to
    the grocery
    store and performing other necessary
    daily activities would be an admirable trait, rather than a
    matter of such
    ridicule or idiotic commentary. Instead, why doesn't a blind man
    being nearly
    killed through no fault of his own and because (as the driver
    himself told the
    police officer) a driver didn't see him (even though he was
    crossing the street
    in plain view) get the attention of those who have the ability to
    make changes
    that could literally save someone else from a worse outcome than
    what happened
    to my brother yesterday? And since both
    Robert and my sister-in-law have previously been hit by cars at
    the same intersection,
    it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the odds of
    their continued
    safe crossing there are not good.
    So I'll conclude with a few constructive suggestions for our
    state and/or local law makers to consider. First, is the
    convenience of drivers
    being able to make a right turn on red worth more than the
    potential loss of
    life or serious bodily harm it poses to all pedestrians, and even
    particularly to those who are blind, elderly and otherwise
    disabled? I don't
    think so. And if even our police officers aren't aware of the
    White Cane Law,
    along with every driver the reporter asked about it yesterday, we
    desperately need
    some kind of public service announcements to better inform the
    public and alert
    them to the need to be on the lookout for blind and otherwise
    disabled pedestrians.
    Additionally, since NONE of the drivers questioned yesterday
    multiple police personnel) were even aware that Florida law
    requires them to
    come to a full stop AND TO YIELD THE RIGHT-OF-WAY whenever a
    blind pedestrian utilizing
    a guide dog or white cane is crossing the street (even though
    that's clearly
    stated in the current Florida Driver Handbook in Sections 5.16.3
    and 5.16.4),
    the White Cane Law is obviously given woefully insufficient
    attention when drivers
    take the required test to obtain a Florida driver's license. And
    since my
    brother literally had to fight for the truck driver to be given a
    perhaps much more serious penalties and fines should be imposed
    and mandatory
    whenever any driver fails to yield the right-of-way to
    pedestrians as required
    by the White Cane Law. Finally, since the
    truck driver admitted that he never even saw my brother, I can't help
    wondering if he was texting or reading a text message at the time
    of the
    incident since I'm not aware of anything that would have
    obstructed his view. However,
    I am personally aware of several serious auto accidents caused by
    a driver's texting,
    so perhaps it's time to require that the cell phone records of
    all drivers
    involved in accidents be examined to determine if they were
    texting and to
    impose very heavy mandatory fines and penalties if that's the
    case. After all, NOTHING
    ever sent or received in a text message is worth the potential
    serious bodily
    harm or death of another person just because a driver isn't
    paying proper
    attention while driving!
    Steve Montgomery
    As you can see from the post history below that there are most
    people that support
    what you're saying, and feel bad for what nearly happened to your
    brother. They support
    your view and what you're trying to do. Two avenues for you to
    consider are the news
    stations and the state. If it's important enough to you then you
    should pursue it.
    More laws aren't the answer. Awareness and education can probably
    do a lot a more.
    Most good people will respond favorably to that.
    Sadly, there will always be those who hide behind keyboards and
    post their vitriol.
    Don't let them deter or draw you into the back and forth. That's
    the only way they
    win. They'll never admit to you that their life essentially
    sucks. You can safely
    assume they have self-esteem issues. They're nothing more than
    internet cowards.
    It's why you see them hide their names and post the things they do.
    The Idiot
    Hold on a minute, how did this guy know it was a truck, how did
    he even know he was
    almost ran over if he's blind. Im calling BS on this, do we have
    video from the traffic
    cams or something. Now all of a sudden this guy can tell what
    kind of vehicle almost
    hit him. BS
    Mrs Moore
    He could probably hear it.
    Are you deaf?
    The Idiot
    Little hard of hearing from working around heavy machinery, but
    not enough to claim
    a disability or get one of those cool talk to text phones. I just
    see this as more
    of an agenda piece than an actual story, but to add that the
    blind guy said a truck
    "almost" hit him, hmmmm, could have been a hoopty with a ragged
    muffler. I mean,
    did the person passing him, the one that "almost" hit him scream
    out " I'm driving
    a truck!"? Did someone tell him that he almost got ran over by a
    You need to get 'em checked -- I can tell between 4 and 18 wheels
    literally a half
    mile distant -- and up close can discern 10, not to mention load
    No telling what a guy blind from birth can do.
    The Idiot
    Oh I agree with the semi part, I could hear the low rumble from a
    concrete truck
    from 3 miles out, makes my back hurt just thinking about it, but
    the truck part,
    just kinda fishy
    I know this guy. See him at least two or three times a week. He
    goes by the law and
    never goes over half mile from the house just to get food. I saw
    a comment from a
    guy named the idiot which he is and hope you go through the same
    thing you asshole.
    The Idiot
    Oh , guess who didn't see the post? The one that matters most,
    the seeing eye dog.
    WTH, are you going to run oft and tell him I posted this?
    The Idiot
    Sheesh, I have a feeling you couldn't fit a toothpick up your
    bunghole with a sledge
    hammer, oh , btw, i'm reporting you for calling me names, you
    hurt my feelings, my
    mommas crazy and I'm not afraid to tell on you.
    Seems like it would be common sense to stop if a blind person, or
    anyone for that
    matter, is in the road! Why is a law needed?!
    Quick question: this happened a while ago but I want to know the
    answer just in case
    I see it again. Does anyone know who you report seeing eye dog
    abuse too? I was driving
    down john Knox and this lady had a seeing eye dog. Well traffic
    was coming so the
    dog didn't go in the street. The woman was yanking on the dog,
    cussing at it and
    telling it to go. The dog was scared and had his tail between his
    legs. I think she
    might have even hit the dog. How do you report someone for seeing
    eye dog abuse when
    clearly they need the dog? Do you call the cops or the animal
    cops? And if they take
    the dog away...won't she get another?
    Mrs Moore
    Awww that's terrible!! Maybe stop and ask her if she'd rather get
    ran over...idk
    that's a tough one :(
    I'd have stopped and asked just what the hell she was doing.
    Wish I would have but I was in shock I guess. The dog didn't want
    her to get hit
    by a car
    I think you're supposed to report animal abuse to Animal Control.
    Won't they give her another dog? What if she does the same thing
    again. There has
    to be some sort of rules.
    I don't know. I honestly never even thought about this before! I
    always imagined
    this loving relationship between person and dog. I never even
    imagined that blind
    people were abusing their seeing-eye dogs. Actually the whole
    story made me hate
    humanity even more than I already did!
    The Idiot
    Lets sneak up and swap dogs on her, give her one that chases
    cars, hahahaha
    This comment almost makes up for the callous remarks you made
    above. This one made
    me smile. The ones above are just kinda cold. If the story is a
    slight embellishment
    of the truth, it doesn't really matter, especially if it makes at
    least one person
    stop and think. I really do like you switching dogs idea, though! :)
    Maybe you can give her a cat....tell her it's the new thing. Or a
    seeing eye lizard...
    The Idiot
    Seeing eye fish
    Seeing eye tadpole?
    The Idiot
    seeing eye soap on a rope
    The Idiot
    give her a box with a furby in it and a rope to pull it
    Or a dead possum....just as effective.
    The Idiot
    Some people need to be hit, if she was blind you could have done
    it and she wouldnt
    be able to identify you :)
    Terrible. But I have to admit I laughed :)
    The Idiot
    Humor is such a fleeting thing, not everyone gets my twisted
    tang, you must have
    been abducted by aliens also, usually thats the only ones that
    get it.
    Impossible Idiot. I have watched many documentaries and black
    people don't get abducted
    by aliens, aliens don't even go to the hood. Last time an alien
    went to the hood,
    ET got shot in a driveby and his spaceship got stolen. A few days
    later the spaceship
    was spotted with rims on it..blasting the new Jay Z album
    The Idiot
    Next time watch where you're going blindy Mc blind guy. :)
    Steve Montgomery
    Change your nic to "a**hole". "The Idiot" doesn't serve you well
    The Idiot
    hey relax Steve, not like blindy can read this, thanks for
    sticking up for him on
    the forum, I just hope you dont trick this guy into thinking
    youre his girlfriend.
    Steve Montgomery
    How crappy your life must be that you need to behave this way on
    a news forum. Keyboard
    commando = coward. Good for you. Moving on....
    The Idiot
    What? Guess you feel better picking on me hurting my feelings on
    the forum, I guess
    none of your friends ever mess with you about any of your non
    perfect attributes,
    I've got friends with no legs and missing digits and have no
    qualms asking for a
    high 4 or making cheaper sock jokes, one pair last twice as long.
    Ok if this will
    make you feel better, I'll apologize to your pal, ... .... ..
    .... .... .... .....
    . . ... . Will you be my fren now?
    What an awesome doggie!
    Good puppy! Well trained and well worth the investment.
    Can anyone tell the difference between a person walking his dog
    or a seeing eye dog
    doing their job? I know about the white cane law, but to be able
    to tell the difference
    between a seeing eye dog and a dog walking is nearly impossible.
    Maybe if the guy had the cane, it would have been different.
    A person just walking his dog will usually just use a leash.
    Seeing eye dogs will
    typically be on a U shaped harness.
    Atta boy Sherman! Good dog! Glad you're all OK.
    As to the White Cane Law, I don't know how anyone can expect 30
    tons of truck to
    come to a halt in time to prevent tragedy. Kinda like really
    expecting a six-lane
    intersection to become a four-way stop during a power-failure.
    Not only do I know how, but I expect it too. How about people
    driving vehicles have
    some situational awareness for walkers, joggers, canes, doggies,
    no power, bicyclists,
    etc.? Secondly, don't drive at an excessive rate of speed, you're
    breaking the law
    if you do (remember the speed limit is max authorized speed in
    perfect conditions).
    Third, be in control of your vehicle (if you can't stop in time,
    you weren't). How
    hard is that?
    Steve Montgomery
    It's not an unrealistic expectation. This pedestrian didn't just
    jump out into the
    intersection expecting everyone to come to a quick stop. The
    solution is really very
    simple: EVERYONE needs to slow down, pay attention, be
    responsible, and be courteous.
    It really is not that hard.
    Gretchen Washington
    Walking around in ritchie rich repubic-an side of town you will
    hit, they all talk
    on cell phone and there fancy cars.
    Seriously... how sad and pathetic is your life? I suppose you
    have a point, in a
    way, though. A person is probably more likely to get hit by a
    "fancy car" in that
    area versus a hoopty on the South side. The distraction by being
    on a cell phone
    is probably about equal, if not a bit more so on the South side
    with justifications
    I won't go into. However, you neglected to mention the much
    higher likelihood of
    one being gunned down in a drive-by on the South side and in the
    Jealous much? How about "justification for education" these so
    called "rich" people
    are not all republicans. They are all from different political
    backgrounds, race
    and religions. They have educated themselves so they may get the
    high paying jobs
    and afford the nice cars on the nice side of town.
    The good news is they generally have money and a decent amount of
    car insurance so
    you -- or your family -- are gonna get paid. Better than what I
    can say for the other
    side of town.
    Aww you are just mad because they are functionally literate and
    you are not.
    Not likely she's aware of that. She's not aware of much, it
    appears. It's so bad,
    it may be an act.
    Just possibly an act. Remember tony? "Steeling jobs"?
    Same same.

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