[tabi] Re: Fw: Nova2010: If you think it won't matter to you

  • From: "Blackjack" <misterblackjack2@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:37:09 -0400

Good question! 


Thanks,
Blackjack
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-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of sgreenblatt76@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 11:34 AM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: Fw: Nova2010: If you think it won't matter to you

Quick question. Whenever I try to schedule my rides on the weekend through
Dial-a-Ride I always get rejected because they tell me there's no money for
Big Bend to take me anywhere on the weekend that's not employment or
medical. Are you saying that if I call Big Bend directly I'll be able to
once again get transportation on the weekends for $5? Thanks for the
clarification.
Scott
Ps. Thanks to everyone for the helpful suggestions on how to avoid the
corners in my house; I finally decided to get a house plant which I can
position appropriately to help me intercept those pesky and painful corners
before my face does.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Easy Talk" <easytalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 2:32 PM
Subject: [tabi] Re: Fw: Nova2010: If you think it won't matter to you


> Most certainly,  Looks like Big bend is the way to go.  Thumbs up Ted 
> Waters.  I remember way back when money was tight and Big Bend was the 
> main provider and they did not deign trips when the money ran out.
>
> Robert
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 1:28 PM
> Subject: [tabi] Re: Fw: Nova2010: If you think it won't matter to you
>
>
>> thanks William; that info will make a big difference to many people.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Chip Orange
>> Database Administrator
>> Florida Public Service Commission
>>
>> Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> (850) 413-6314
>>
>> (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not 
>> necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.)
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of blindwilly
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 1:22 PM
>>> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [tabi] Re: Fw: Nova2010: If you think it won't matter to 
>>> you
>>>
>>> Chip,
>>>
>>> It used to be that Big Bend charged extra if they left the city 
>>> limits, however they have changed that program and now they do not 
>>> charge extra.
>>> It is $5 to use big bend, during there normal working hours for $5 
>>> each way even if they have to go into the county.
>>>
>>> William
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Chip Orange" <Corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 12:14 PM
>>> Subject: [tabi] Re: Fw: Nova2010: If you think it won't matter to 
>>> you
>>>
>>>
>>> > Hi Blackjack,
>>> >
>>> > no, I feel certain that transportation in general cannot be
>>> taken off on
>>> > your taxes.
>>> >
>>> > as you said, if you planned ahead for it, and had an employer who 
>>> > offered the medical reimbursement accounts, then just maybe they'd 
>>> > accept transportation expenses for medical reasons,
>>> although getting it
>>> > properly documented would be a bear.  and then, it might
>>> not be covered
>>> > anyway.  it may be only medical devices and medical services are 
>>> > covered; that's my memory of how it's written.
>>> >
>>> > it's a commonly held myth you can deduct any medical
>>> expenses on your
>>> > regular income taxes.  in fact, you cannot unless they're a
>>> tremendously
>>> > high percentage of your income.
>>> >
>>> > finally, you asked if the TDC Robert mentioned was an alternative.
>>> >
>>> > I think so; right now anyway, they are voluntarily offering
>>> rides within
>>> > the city for $5 a ride.  nothing requires them to offer
>>> rides at this
>>> > price, and it goes up if you're leaving the city limits (I
>>> think it was
>>> > $12 in the county?).  and then, you have to schedule within
>>> their hours
>>> > of operation, and if they have a bus available for you.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Chip
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ------------------------------
>>> >
>>> > Chip Orange
>>> > Database Administrator
>>> > Florida Public Service Commission
>>> >
>>> > Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> > (850) 413-6314
>>> >
>>> > (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not 
>>> > necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service 
>>> > Commission.)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Blackjack
>>> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 12:06 PM
>>> >> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> Subject: [tabi] Re: Fw: Nova2010: If you think it won't
>>> matter to you
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi, where does Big bend come in at and just what kind of service 
>>> >> do they offer and what kind of paid service do they offer? I just 
>>> >> wonder if they could be used as a alternative? Also how about 
>>> >> taxies? I know their might not be any free stuff or low amount of 
>>> >> payments but how about a write off on your taxes if for medical I 
>>> >> know it could be claimed under that. But how about work and 
>>> >> grocery stores and such? Could this be taken off your taxes?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks,
>>> >> Blackjack
>>> >> misterblackjack2@xxxxxxxxx
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Easy Talk
>>> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 11:54 AM
>>> >> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> Subject: [tabi] Fw: Nova2010: If you think it won't matter to you
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> From: <ericamccaul@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> To: <easytalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 11:28 AM
>>> >> Subject: Re: Nova2010: If you think it won't matter to you
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> > Robert,
>>> >> > Would you mind posting to TABI, or mind if I do?
>>> >> > I had absolutely no idea how the 3 systems were connected,
>>> >> > interdependent, and funded. Thanks for spelling this out for me.
>>> >> > Although I think lots of folks "know" this, I'm not sure they've
>>> >> > connected the dots so clearly.
>>> >> > Thank you so much!
>>> >> > Erica
>>> >> >
>>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>>> >> > From: Easy Talk <easytalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> > To: ericamccaul@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> > Sent: Tue, Oct 6, 2009 4:07 pm
>>> >> > Subject: Re: Nova2010: If you think it won't matter to you
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Hi Erica,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > You go girl!
>>> >> > I would like to point out the reality of some of the things
>>> >> you spoke
>>> >> > about
>>> >> > and maybe help people really understand the reality of what
>>> >> will most
>>> >> > likely
>>> >> > happen.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > In Leon county and Tallahassee there are 3 forms of public
>>> >> > transportation.
>>> >> > Two of them are the fixed bus system and Dial A ride.
>>> Think of the
>>> >> > fixed
>>> >> > bus system as the center circle and the smallest.  Think of
>>> >> Dial A Ride
>>> >> > as a
>>> >> > system that operates 3 quarters of a mile out side of the
>>> >> center which
>>> >> > is
>>> >> > covered by the fixed route/bus system.  Both of these
>>> services are
>>> >> > dependent
>>> >> > on each other and funded by federal dollars and the city.
>>> >> Dial A ride
>>> >> > is
>>> >> > given federal dollars based on compliance of federal
>>> >> guidelines that
>>> >> > only
>>> >> > require them to provide service to the Disabled, elderly and
>>> >> > economically
>>> >> > disadvantaged.  Dial A Ride doesn't get paid for each trip
>>> >> they make.
>>> >> > They
>>> >> > are paid quarterly based on the service provided by the
>>> fixed route
>>> >> > system
>>> >> > and the coverage of the fixed route system.  The third
>>> system is the
>>> >> > state/county service of the TDC which does get paid by
>>> the trip and
>>> >> > operates
>>> >> > any where the other two systems do not cover.  For instance
>>> >> if you live
>>> >> > at
>>> >> > the governors mansion and want to go to the Bradford Ville
>>> >> Blues club,
>>> >> > you
>>> >> > would have to use the third option.  The third option also covers
>>> >> > medicade
>>> >> > trips that aren't covered by the first two options.  This
>>> >> service is
>>> >> > the one
>>> >> > that is in most cases not available since they currently
>>> >> only provide
>>> >> > rides
>>> >> > for medical and work.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > So what we are dealing with regarding the decentralization
>>> >> of Starmetro
>>> >> > is,
>>> >> > If you make the center circle/fixed system smaller then you
>>> >> also reduce
>>> >> > the
>>> >> > Dial A ride service since federal guidelines control the
>>> >> coverage out
>>> >> > side
>>> >> > the fixed route. I know some people have posted here that
>>> >> Dial A ride
>>> >> > provided more coverage than the federal law requires but in
>>> >> 20 years
>>> >> > here in
>>> >> > Tallahassee, it hasn't happened to me or anyone else I
>>> >> know.  Even if
>>> >> > they
>>> >> > did, unless it was in writing as a city disability policy,
>>> >> I wouldn't
>>> >> > bank
>>> >> > on it based on my experience.  Believe me if they did, it
>>> >> would be the
>>> >> > first
>>> >> > thing to go.  Hell, FCB can't even meet in city hall
>>> which as a tax
>>> >> > payer, I
>>> >> > helped pay for.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > It doesn't surprise me that Tallahassee would push for this
>>> >> since as we
>>> >> > all
>>> >> > know most of the bus stops in neighborhoods aren't
>>> >> accessible and also
>>> >> > most
>>> >> > of the current stops aren't either.  By shrinking the
>>> >> coverage area,
>>> >> > just
>>> >> > think of the money the city will save.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Robert
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> > From: <ericamccaul@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> > To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> >    Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 2:48 PM
>>> >> > Subject: Nova2010: If you think it won't matter to you
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> I'm going to put this out here for all ears to hear
>>> once, and only
>>> >> > once.
>>> >> >> If you ride the bus, change-- not necessarily good-- is
>>> comin' You
>>> >> > have
>>> >> >> opportunities to possibly stop this change, or at least
>>> >> make it less
>>> >> >> inconvenient and dangerous for you or other riders. See
>>> below for
>>> >> > details
>>> >> >> on how you can get your questions answered and make your
>>> >> voice heard.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> If you DON'T ride the bus, you may think, "So what?"
>>> >> >> Here's what: With the current centralized system, virtually all
>>> >> > transfers
>>> >> >> are made downtown IN A SINGLE SAFE, CONTROLLED,
>>> >> PREDICTABLE, COVERED,
>>> >> >> ACCESSIBLE location. With the newly proposed
>>> decentralized system,
>>> >> > 90+% of
>>> >> >> transfers will be made on NUMBEROUS STREET CORNERS WITH
>>> OR WITHOUT
>>> >> > THE
>>> >> >> BENEFIT OF SIDEWALKS, FLAT TERRAIN, SHELTER, or any form of
>>> >> > ASSISTANCE;
>>> >> >> with (but probably without) the aid of audible crosswalk
>>> >> > signals,visible
>>> >> >> crosswalks, protective medians, and accessible signage.
>>> CERTAINLY
>>> >> > there
>>> >> >> will be no "ticket person" or supervisor on hand to aid
>>> >> you, nor will
>>> >> >> there be law enforcement nearby, should someone other
>>> than the bus
>>> >> >> approach you on the side of the road.
>>> >> >> You can imagine that it is possible that some folks who feel
>>> >> > comfortable
>>> >> >> riding the bus now will no long feel this way. When these
>>> >> folks stop
>>> >> >> riding the fixed bus system, where do you think they
>>> will turn for
>>> >> >> transportation?? Dial-a-Ride.
>>> >> >> So how well is Dial-a-Ride able to meet everyone's
>>> needs now? Are
>>> >> > there
>>> >> >> scheduling difficulties? Is there enough money to keep
>>> the system
>>> >> > going?
>>> >> >> Can anyone who's accepted ride for any purpose, or is
>>> >> prioritization
>>> >> >> occurring already? If you think Dial-a-Ride is crowded,
>>> >> stretched, or
>>> >> >> stressed NOW, imagine how it will fare when even more
>>> people come
>>> >> > looking
>>> >> >> for a seat.
>>> >> >> And, to the best I've been able to discern from the
>>> >> non-answers I've
>>> >> >> gotten from StarMetro personnel at the listening sessions I've
>>> >> > attended,
>>> >> >> NO, THERE IS NO MONEY SET ASIDE FROM STARMETRO TO BOLSTER
>>> >> > Dial-a-Ride.
>>> >> >> Neither have I been assured that there is money from
>>> >> StarMetro or any
>>> >> >> other department specifically set aside for the
>>> >> improvements needed
>>> >> > to
>>> >> >> make this a safe system, such as:
>>> >> >> 1. traffic controlling devices (protective medians, repainted
>>> >> > crosswalks,
>>> >> >> cameras to record or extra law enforcement to ticket red light
>>> >> > runners,
>>> >> >> reworked light signals to include arrows for turners and
>>> >> ample time
>>> >> > for
>>> >> >> pedestrian crossings, etc.)
>>> >> >> 2. amenities to make the stops and transfer points safe and
>>> >> > accessible
>>> >> >> (culverts over ditches, wide and flat sidewalks with curb cuts,
>>> >> >> removal/relocation of poles, low branches, etc.,
>>> adequate lighting
>>> >> > and
>>> >> >> signage-- remember, from November thru March it gets dark
>>> >> well before
>>> >> >> 6:00pm). Also, any stop that does NOT include a shelter
>>> >> NEED NOT BE
>>> >> > A.D.A.
>>> >> >> accessible; StarMetro has only 30 shelters for this
>>> >> project (and may
>>> >> > use
>>> >> >> some existing ones), but there are AT LEAST 20
>>> >> intersections one must
>>> >> >> navigate in order to fully use this network, and, ideally, each
>>> >> >> intersection would have at least 2 sheltered stops!!!
>>> >> >> StarMetro has not even hired an A.D.A. consultant yet.
>>> That is how
>>> >> >> concerned they are.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> And still, if you are not concerned, think about the proverbial
>>> >> > little old
>>> >> >> ladies coming back from the pharmacy on the bus. Surely
>>> >> you've seen
>>> >> > (or at
>>> >> >> least heard of) them. How will they manage???
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> HOW TO MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD:
>>> >> >> You can attend a listening session:
>>> >> >> * Tue 10/6 / City Hall in the Tallahassee Room, 300 South Adams
>>> >> > Street, 12
>>> >> >> noon - 1 pm & 5:30 - 7:00 pm
>>> >> >> * Wed 10/7 / Leroy Collins Public Library, 200 West Park
>>> >> Avenue, 12 >
>>> >> >> noon - 1:00 pm
>>> >> >> * Thur 10/8 / Atkins Building in Koger Office Center, 1320
>>> >> Executive
>>> >> >> Center Drive, 7:00 - 8:00 pm
>>> >> >> * Wed. 10/14  2:00 PM   Meeting room, Miccosukee Hills
>>> Apartments,
>>> >> > 3201
>>> >> >> Miccosukee Road, Route 4- first bus stop after
>>> interning complex.
>>> >> >> * Wed. 10/14 / Leroy Collins Public Library, 200 West
>>> Park Avenue,
>>> >> > 5:30 -
>>> >> >> 7:00 pm
>>> >> >> * Thur 10/22 / Northeast Branch Library, 5513 Thomasville
>>> >> Road, 5:30 -
>>> >> >>> 7:00 pm
>>> >> >> * Tue 10/27 / B.L. Perry Jr. Branch Library, 2817 South
>>> >> Adams Street,
>>> >> >> 11:30 am - 1 pm & 5:30 - 7:00 pm
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> or call starmetro at 891-5283
>>> >> >> or email them at  nova2010project@xxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Thank you for your consideration on this matter.
>>> >> >> Erica McCaul
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
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