[tabi] Re: Fw: Nova 2010 route descriptions

  • From: "Easy Talk" <easytalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 05:50:13 -0400

This is a good point chip and I also think since there will be changes between now and implementation I wouldn't brake my back yet but it does give us a better idea of the routs.


Robert

----- Original Message ----- From: "Allison and Chip Orange" <acorange@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 10:17 PM
Subject: [tabi] Re: Fw: Nova 2010 route descriptions


this is great work, but I'd like to offer an observation:  if you're a
potential bus rider, and you'd like to know if you'll be able to take some
of these routes, then it's just as important for you to know where the stops
are as it is to know how the route is laid out.  if there's no stop
reasonably close to where you need to go, then it doesn't matter if it runs
right by your door.

and so, even though it's more work, this info will need to be added to the
route descriptions to make them really useful.

(ideally, StarMetro should provide a text description of the appearance of
the stop, and it's GPS location, not just it's corner).

thanks again.

Chip


-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Laurie Davis
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 9:15 PM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Fw: Nova 2010 route descriptions

Hi all,

Here is an example of a written description of the proposed new Star Metro
routes.  Kevin asked me to post them to TABI for your input.

Thank you.

Laurie
----- Original Message -----
From: daviska9 <mailto:daviska9@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: ericamccaul@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: 'Laurie Davis' <mailto:davisllb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 7:48 PM
Subject: RE: Nova 2010 route descriptions



I'm impressed.  I haven't ready all of it, but what I did review is quite
detailed. Have you sent this to Sam? I will send this to the committee to
get their feedback.  I'll let you know what they think.  I'll also have
Laurie post this to TABI to see what others think.



Take Care,

Kevin





-----Original Message-----
From: ericamccaul@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ericamccaul@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 11:45 AM
To: ericamccaul@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Nova 2010 route descriptions



Please be advised that I have no formal training in this area, nor any

afiliation with any group or entity. I am a concerned citizen who sees

a need that has not yet been otherwise fulfilled. I welcome comments

and suggestions.

Erica McCaul

ericamccaul@xxxxxxxxxxxx



Describing StarMetro's Nova 2010 plan (as of 9/27/09)

There are 11 routes (as opposed to 25 day routes currently). All but

one are out-and-back; most have a small loop at one or both ends. Six

of these go  to C.K. Steele Plaza. Under the Nova 2010 plan, service

would be identical all 7 days of the week, with minor deletions (such

as the Capital Office Complex being cut out of the Southwood routes on

weekends, since presumably no one is working then).

Routes are identified by COLOR. Multiple buses staggered along the same

route will produce higher frequency. Routes run independently, so will

not necessarily arrive at the same checkpoint at the same time every

hour; while the goal is for the PINK route, for example, to arrive at

the corner of Tharpe and M.L.King headed downtown every 30 minutes,

there is no guarantee. Buses will not be held at the plaza or other

transfer points.

Routes will be divided into three groups: north-south bound, east-west

bound, or combination. North-south routes will be listed from

easternmost to westernmost; east-west routes will be listed from

northernmost to southernmost. Each route will be described from its

northern end to its southern end or from its eastern end to its western

end where possible. Turn-by-turn descriptions include both the

direction of the turn (left or right) and the resulting compass

direction. Transfer/connection points with other routes are also

indicated, giving the color of the connecting route and the

cross-streets. Until directions of travel are indicated on StarMetro's

concept map, loops will be described in a clockwise direction. Be

advised that the concept map is NOT final. Updates to these

descriptions will be posted as time allows. Points of interest

(shopping, schools, medical facilities, recreational facilities)-- and

which side of the street they are on (compass direction)-- should be

added to make these descriptions complete.



North-south routes:

   BLUE- Every ?? minutes. From the corner of Bradfordville/Bannerman

and Thomasville, east on Bradfordville/Bannerman, left (northwest) on

Bradfordville, left (south) on Thomasville, right (west) on Village

Square Boulevard, left (west) on Village Square Boulevard, left (south)

on Maclay Boulevard South, left (east) on Maclay Commerce Boulevard,

right (south) on Thamasville Road, [multiple transfer points with GREEN

on Village  Square Boulevard, Maclay Boulevard South, Maclay Commerce

Boulevard, and Thomasville between Village Square Boulevard and just

north of its  intersection with CCNE], [transfer point with ORANGE at

Thomasville and Betton], left (south) onto Calhoun, right (west) on

Carolina, left (south) on Adams to C.K. Steele Plaza, south on Adams,

right (west) on College, [transfer points with DARK GREEN at College

and Macomb, and Jefferson and Macomb], left (south) on Macomb, right

(west) on Jefferson, left (south) on Woodward, right (west) on Gaines,

[multiple transfer points with YELLOW and PURPLE on Gaines between

Woodward and Lake Bradford Road], left (south) on Lake Bradford, veer

right on Lake Bradford to Orange Avenue, [multiple transfer points with

TEAL on Orange between Lake Bradford and Pottsdamer], right (north) on

Pattsdamer, right (northeast) on Paul Dirac, [transfer points at

Innovation Park with TEAL on Paul Dirac between Pottsdamer and Levy

Drive], right (east) on Levy Drive, left (north) on Lake Bradford Road,

right (east) on Gaines, [multiple transfer points with YELLOW and

PURPLE on Gaines between Lake Bradford Road and Woodward], left (north)

on Woodward, right (east) on St. Augustine, left (north) on Copeland,

right (east) on College, [transfer point with DARK GREEN at College

and Macomb], left (north) on Adams to C.K. Steele Plaza, north on

Adams, right (east) on Carolina, left (north) on Monroe, [multiple

transfer points with PURPLE on Monroe between Carolina and

Thomasville]; reverse to the corner of Bradfordville/Bannerman and

Thomasville. Note that this route IS out-and-back with the exceptions

of segments on Calhoun/Monroe, Macomb and Copeland, and Jefferson and

St. Augustine.



   GREEN- Every 15 minutes. From the corner of Village Square Boulevard

and Thomasville, left (west) on Village Square Boulevard, left (south)

on Maclay Boulevard South, left (east) on Maclay Commerce Boulevard,

[multiple transfer points with BLUE on Village Square Boulevard, Maclay

Boulevard South, Maclay Commerce Boulevard, and Thomasville between

Village Square Boulevard and just north of its intersection with CCNE],

right (south) on Thamasville Road, left (southeast) on CCNE, [transfer

point with RED at CCNE and Micosukee], [transfer point with BLACK at

CCNE and Tennessee Street/Mahan], [transfer point with PINK at CCNE and

East Park], right (west) on Apalachee Parkway, [multiple transfer

points with YELLOW along Apalachee Parkway between CCNE and Executive

Center Drive], loop through Koger Center on Executive Center Drive and

Executive Center Circle East (which becomes Midyette Road south of Old

St. Augustine), merge onto CCSE going south, left (east) onto

Blairstone Road, right (south) on Four Oaks Boulevard, right (west) on

Merchants Row Boulevard and Shumark Oak Boulevard, left (north) on

Esplanade Way, right (east) on Merchants Way; reverse to the corner of

Village Square Boulevard and Thomasville.



   BROWN- Every 15 minutes. From the C.K. Steele Plaza, east on Call

Street, right (south) on South Monroe, [transfer point with YELLOW at

South Monroe and Gaines Street], [transfer point with TEAL at South

Monroe and Orange Avenue], [transfer point with RED at South Monroe and

Paul Russell], veer left (southeast) onto Woodville Highway, right

(west) on Ross Road, right (north, then west) on Shelfer Road, right

(northeast) on Crawfordville Highway, merge onto South Monroe, left

(west) on Call Street back to C.K. Steele Plaza.



   DARK GREEN- Every 15 minutes. From the corner of Old Bainbridge and

Volusia, left (west) on Volusia, left (south) on Joe Louis Street, left

(east) on Alabama, right (south) on Abraham Street, right (west) on

Preston, right (north) on Basin, right (east) on Alabama, right

(southeast) on Old Bainbridge, left (east) on Fourth, right (south) on

Macomb [transfer point with BLACK at Macomb and Tennessee Street],

[transfer point with BLUE at Macomb and College]; Macomb becomes

Railroad Avenue/Wahnish Way, [transfer points with YELLOW and PURPLE at

Railroad Avenue/Wahnish Way and Gaines], right (west) on Orange, right

(north) on Saxon, right (east) on Campbell, left (north) on

Wahnish/Railroad and Macomb; reverse to the corner of Old Bainbridge

and Volusia.



E/W routes:

   ORANGE- Every 30 minutes. From the corner of Centerville and Medical

Road, south on Centerville, left (east) on Miccosukee, [multiple

transfer points with RED on Miccosukee between Centerville and Medical

Road], left (north then northwest) on Medical Road, right (northeast)

on Centerville, left (west) on Betton/Bradford, [transfer point with

BLUE on Betton at Thomasvlile], right (north) on Meridian, left (west)

on Henderson, left (south) on Grady, right (west) on Fulton, left

(south) on Sharer, right (northwest) on North Monroe, [multiple

transfer points with PURPLE on North Monroe between Sharer and

Callaway], left (south) on Callaway, right (west) on Pullen, right

(north) on Old Bainbridge, left (west) on Portland, left (south) on

Nugget, right (west) on Hartsfield, right northwest then west) on

Commonwealth to CCNW, [multiple transfer points with PINK on Hartsfield

and Commonwealth between Mission and CCNW], [multiple transfer points

with BLACK B Commonwealth]; reverse.



   PINK- Every 30 minutes. From the corner of Apalachee Parkway and

Doyle Conner Boulevard, north then west on Doyle Conner/Park Avenue,

[transfer point with GREEN at Doyle Conner/Park and CCSE], left (south)

on Reese Park Lane, right (west) on Governor's Square Boulevard, right

(north) on Magnolia, [multiple transfer points with RED on Magnolia at

Governor's Square Boulevard and Park], left (west) on Park, right

(north) on Adams to C.K. Steele Plaza, north on Duval/M.L. King, left

(west) on Tharpe, right (north) on Mission, [multiple transfer points

with PURPLE on Mission between Tharpe and Hartsfield], left (west) on

Hartsfield, right northwest then west) on Commonwealth to CCNW,

[multiple transfer points with ORANGE on Hartsfield and Commonwealth

between Mission and CCNW], [multiple transfer points with BLACK B

Commonwealth]; reverse, except entering C.K. Steele Plaza via Bronough

rather than Duval.



   BLACK B- Every 10 minutes from east end to intersection of West

Tennessee and Appleyard; 20 minutes west of there (Commonwealth loop).

From the corner of Mahan and Buck Lake, east on Buck Lake, right

(south) on Fallschase Boulevard, right (west) on Acadian, right (north)

on Weems, left (west) on Mahan, [transfer point with GREEN on Mahan at

CCNE], [transfer point with RED on Mahan at Magnolia], [transfer point

with PURPLE on Mahan at Monroe], ?? to C.K. Steele Plaza, [transfer

point with BLE on Mahan at Adams], [transfer point with PINK on Mahan

between Duval and Bronough], [transfer point with DARK GREEN on Mahan

at Macomb], [transfer point with PURPLE and BLACK A on Mahan at

Appleyard], continue west on Tennessee, right (north) on CCNW, right

(east) on Commonwealth, [multiple transfer points with PINK and ORANGE

on Commonwealth between CCNW and hartsfield], right (south then west)

on Hartsfield, left (south) on CCNW; reverse.



   BLACK A- Every 10 minutes from east end to intersection of West

Tennessee and Appleyard; 20 minutes west of there (Appleyard loop).

From the corner of Mahan and Buck Lake, east on Buck Lake, right

(south) on Fallschase Boulevard, right (west) on Acadian, right (north)

on Weems, left (west) on Mahan, [transfer point with GREEN on Mahan at

CCNE], [transfer point with RED on Mahan at Magnolia], [transfer point

with PURPLE on Mahan at Monroe], ?? to C.K. Steele Plaza, [transfer

point with BLE on Mahan at Adams], [transfer point with PINK on Mahan

between Duval and Bronough], [transfer point with DARK GREEN on Mahan

at Macomb], [transfer point with BLACK B on Mahan at Appleyard], left

(south) on Appleyard, [multiple transfer points with PURPLE on

Appleyard between Mahan and Pensacola], right (southwest) on Pensacola

[multiple transfer points with YELLOW on Pensacola between Appleyard

and Blountstown Hightway], right (north) on Blountstown Hightway, right

(east) on Tennessee past Appleyard; reverse.



   YELLOW- Every 20 minutes. From the corner of Apalachee Parkway and

Doyle Conner Boulevard, west on Apalachee Parkway, [transfer point with

PINK at Apalachee Parkway and Doyle Conner Boulevard], [multiple

transfer points with GREEN on Apalachee Parkway between CCNE and

Executive Center Drive], veer left on East Lafayette, [transfer point

with RED at Lafayette and Magnolia], left (south) on

Lafayette/Meridian, right (west) on Gaines, [transfer point with BROWN

at Gaines and South Monroe], [multiple transfer points with PURPLE at

Gaines between Duval and Lake Bradford], [transfer point with DARK

GREEN at Gaines and Wahnish], [multiple transfer point with BLUE at

Gaines between Woodward and Lake Bradford Road], right (north) on

Stadium Drive West, left (west) on Pensacola, [transfer point with

PURPLE at Pensacola and Appleyard], [multiple transfer points with

BLACK A on Pensacola between Appleyard and Blountstown Highway];

reverse.



   TEAL- Every 15 minutes. From the corner of CCSE and Merchants Row

Boulevard, east on Merchants Row Boulevard, [multiple transfer points

with GREEN on Merchants Row Boulevard between CCSE and Four Oaks

Boulevard], right (south) on Four Oaks Boulevard, right (west) on

Shumark Oak Boulevard to Merchants Row Boulevard, [multiple transfer

points with GREEN on between Shumark and Esplanade and Merchants Row

and CCSE], left (north) on CCSE, [multiple transfer points with GREEN

on CCSE between Blairstone and Orange Avenue], left (west) on Orange

Avenue, [transfer point with RED on Orange Avenue at Jim Lee],

[transfer point with BROWN on Orange Avenue at South Monroe], [multiple

transfer points with DARK GREEN on Orange Avenue between Wahnish and

Saxon], [multiple transfer points with BLUE on Orange Avenue between at

Lake Bradford and Pottsdamer], right (north) on Eisenhower, right

(east) on Roberts, right (south) on Paul Dirac Drive, loop around Paul

Dirac, [transfer points at Innovation Park with BLUE on Paul Dirac

between Levy Drive and Pottsdamer], left (west) on Roberts; reverse.



Combination:

   RED- Every 30 minutes. From the corner of Miccosukee and Capital

Medical, northwest then southwest on Capital Medical, right (northwest

then north) on Buford Boulevard, right (east) on Centerville, right

(east then south) on Fleischmann, right (southwest) on Miccosukee,

[transfer point with LIGHT GREEN at Miccosukee and CCNE], [multiple

transfer points with ORANGE on Miccosukee between Medical Road and

Centerville (which is called Magnolia south of Miccosukee)], left

(south) on Magnolia, [transfer point with BLACK at Magnolia and

Tennessee], [transfer point with PINK at Magnolia and Park], [transfer

point with YELLOW at Magnolia and Lafayette], left (south) on Jim Lee

Road, [transfer point with TEAL at Jim Lee and Orange Avenue], left

(west) on Paul Russell, [transfer point with BROWN at Paul Russell and

South Monroe], left (south) on Adams, right (west) on Bragg, right

(north) on Parkridge, left (west) on Tanner, right (north) on

Gallimore, left (west) on Springsax, left (south) on North Ridge Road,

left (east then south) on Synnyside, right (west) on Woodland, right

(north) on Toucan, right (east) on Ridge and reverse to the corner of

Miccosukee and Capital Medical.



   PURPLE- Every 30 minutes (both directions, this is the only route

that is a loop. From the corner of Fred George and North Monroe,

southeast on North Monrue, [multiple transfer points with ORANGE on

North Monroe between Callaway and Sharer], [multiple transfer points

with BLUE on North Monroe between Thomasville and Carolina], right

(west) on Tennessee to C.K. Steele Plaza, south on Duval, right (west)

on Gaines, [multiple transfer points with YELLOW on Gaines between

Duval and Lake Bradford], [transfer point with DARK GREEN on Gaines at

Wahnish], [multiple transfer points with BLUE on Gaines between

Woodward and Lake Bradford], left (south) on Lake Bradford, right

(west) on Jackson Bluff, right (north) on Appleyard, [transfer point

with YELLOW on Appleyard at Pensacola], [multiple transfer points with

BLACK A on Appleyard between Pensacola and Tennessee], [transfer point

with BLACK B on Appleyard/Mission at Tennessee], north on Mission,

[multiple transfer points with PINK on Mission between Tharpe and

Hartsfield], [transfer point with ORANGE on Mission at Hartsfield],

right (northeast) on Fred George. This exact route is also run in the

counterclockwise direction.





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