[tabi] Re: Fw: Gov Scott's Transition Team may be thinking about if one agency should serve all disabilities...
- From: "Daniel Ben Moshe" <danielbenmoshe1@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 22:28:38 -0500
That is very true when ever DBS stays under education it does well, but when
ever they move it around it doesn't do so well. Yes this is what we need to
fight for making sure that DBS stays under the department of education, and
that it's funding is not cut or taken away all together.
I'm glad to be your humble and obedient servant,
Zechen Elder Daniel Ben Moshe,
B'ni Yahshuah Synagogue Of Broward County,
www.theblindcansee.org
Choose ye this day whom you will serve. If YHWH be Elohim, then serve him,
with all of your heart. However, if baal be your god, then serve him. As
for me, and my house. We choose to serve YHWH!
The late Bishop Joe O Patterson told a story long ago, when i was a small
child. about the show down, between Elijah, and the 450 false prophets of
baal. He shared with us how Elijah, stood, and told the false prophets to go
on ahead,and call their god first. Because they had a much larger program.
He talked about how they had 450 participants to introduce. Elijah was so
sure of YHWH, he with confidence said, that he only had one. Elijah also
reminded them, that they had to drag their fake god up the mountain side on
an ox cart. Elijah also announced to the world, that his Elohim would be
there when he arrived. He said mockingly, you go on ahead. Heck, I will
even let you have prime time. I'M going to take a nap, and when you guys
finish your foolishness, wake me up. Go ahead now, take your best shot.
Bishop Joe O Patterson
A blessed memory
1963-1989
-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Lynn Evans
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 9:48 PM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: Fw: Gov Scott's Transition Team may be thinking about if
one agency should serve all disabilities...
Recent Florida state government history as I remember it:
For the longest time the Division of Blind Services was in the Department of
Education. Then for a while was moved to the Department of Labor. Then back
to the Department of Education.
What was that all about?
At one time there was an agency called HRS Health and Rehabilitative
Services.
Someone in state government said, "Oh too big let's break it up." Now we
have the Department of Health and decaf, The Department of Children and
Family Services.
Is this better and how much money is it saving the taxpayers of our state if
any?
Are we just rearranging the chairs on the deck of the Titanic?
It is about providing services for the people of our state. Of course we
want to pay as little for it as possible. This is why we have the type of
public education we have today because we want to pay as little as possible.
What advantage is there in having everyone under one umbrella department?
The division of blind services needs to stay under education. Can we at
lease agree to fight for that and stop the debate about what part of the
state is out of the loop or who lost the election by voting or not voting?
The 2011 vision summit should be quite interesting.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Ben Moshe" <danielbenmoshe1@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 8:34 PM
Subject: [tabi] Re: Fw: Gov Scott's Transition Team may be thinking about if
one agency should serve all disabilities...
> :-) long live north florida:-)
>
>
>
> I'm glad to be your humble and obedient servant,
>
> Zechen Elder Daniel Ben Moshe,
> B'ni Yahshuah Synagogue Of Broward County, www.theblindcansee.org
> Choose ye this day whom you will serve. If YHWH be Elohim, then serve
> him, with all of your heart. However, if baal be your god, then serve
> him. As for me, and my house. We choose to serve YHWH!
>
> The late Bishop Joe O Patterson told a story long ago, when i was a
> small child. about the show down, between Elijah, and the 450 false
> prophets of baal. He shared with us how Elijah, stood, and told the
> false prophets to go
> on ahead,and call their god first. Because they had a much larger
> program.
> He talked about how they had 450 participants to introduce. Elijah was
> so sure of YHWH, he with confidence said, that he only had one.
> Elijah also reminded them, that they had to drag their fake god up the
> mountain side on an ox cart. Elijah also announced to the world, that
> his Elohim would be there when he arrived. He said mockingly, you go
> on ahead. Heck, I will even let you have prime time. I'M going to
> take a nap, and when you guys finish your foolishness, wake me up. Go
> ahead now, take your best shot.
> Bishop Joe O Patterson
> A blessed memory
> 1963-1989
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Lynn Evans
> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 8:29 PM
> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [tabi] Re: Fw: Gov Scott's Transition Team may be thinking
> about if one agency should serve all disabilities...
>
> so I guess that leaves the north out of the loop.
> I am glad we cleared that up.
> that was going to keep me awake all night.
> snicker
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Plummer" <joeplummer@xxxxxxx>
> To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 6:16 PM
> Subject: [tabi] Re: Fw: Gov Scott's Transition Team may be thinking
> about if one agency should serve all disabilities...
>
>
>> Mostly in South and the middle of the state.
>>
>>
>> sign,
>> Joe Plummer (JP)
>> joeplummer@xxxxxxx
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf Of Daniel Ben Moshe
>> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 1:54 PM
>> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [tabi] Re: Fw: Gov Scott's Transition Team may be thinking
>> about if one agency should serve all disabilities...
>>
>> So where is the power in the state now?
>>
>>
>> I'm glad to be your humble and obedient servant,
>>
>> Zechen Elder Daniel Ben Moshe,
>> B'ni Yahshuah Synagogue Of Broward County, www.theblindcansee.org
>> Choose ye this day whom you will serve. If YHWH be Elohim, then serve
>> him, with all of your heart. However, if baal be your god, then serve
>> him. As for me, and my house. We choose to serve YHWH!
>>
>> The late Bishop Joe O Patterson told a story long ago, when i was a
>> small child. about the show down, between Elijah, and the 450 false
>> prophets of baal. He shared with us how Elijah, stood, and told the
>> false prophets to go
>> on ahead,and call their god first. Because they had a much larger
>> program.
>> He talked about how they had 450 participants to introduce. Elijah was
>> so sure of YHWH, he with confidence said, that he only had one.
>> Elijah also reminded them, that they had to drag their fake god up the
>> mountain side on an ox cart. Elijah also announced to the world, that
>> his Elohim would be there when he arrived. He said mockingly, you go
>> on ahead. Heck, I will even let you have prime time. I'M going to
>> take a nap, and when you guys finish your foolishness, wake me up. Go
>> ahead now, take your best shot.
>> Bishop Joe O Patterson
>> A blessed memory
>> 1963-1989
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf Of Joe Plummer
>> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 1:09 PM
>> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [tabi] Re: Fw: Gov Scott's Transition Team may be thinking
>> about if one agency should serve all disabilities...
>>
>> Because the North Florida has no power when it comes to the
>> legislature any more. They are out of the loop. Especially The
>> Tallahassee area. It is all Democrats and the vast majority is to the
>> right which is in our case Republicans and their fourth we don't have
>> any political power.
>>
>>
>> Sign,
>> JP ( Joe Plummer)
>> joeplummer@xxxxxxx
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf Of Daniel Ben Moshe
>> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 12:40 PM
>> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [tabi] Re: Fw: Gov Scott's Transition Team may be thinking
>> about if one agency should serve all disabilities...
>>
>> Joe can you please explain what that means that North Florida will be
>> out of the loop? Because from where I sit, it looks like South
>> Florida has become more out of the loop?
>>
>>
>> I'm glad to be your humble and obedient servant,
>>
>> Zechen Elder Daniel Ben Moshe,
>> B'ni Yahshuah Synagogue Of Broward County, www.theblindcansee.org
>> Choose ye this day whom you will serve. If YHWH be Elohim, then serve
>> him, with all of your heart. However, if baal be your god, then serve
>> him. As for me, and my house. We choose to serve YHWH!
>>
>> The late Bishop Joe O Patterson told a story long ago, when i was a
>> small child. about the show down, between Elijah, and the 450 false
>> prophets of baal. He shared with us how Elijah, stood, and told the
>> false prophets to go
>> on ahead,and call their god first. Because they had a much larger
>> program.
>> He talked about how they had 450 participants to introduce. Elijah was
>> so sure of YHWH, he with confidence said, that he only had one.
>> Elijah also reminded them, that they had to drag their fake god up the
>> mountain side on an ox cart. Elijah also announced to the world, that
>> his Elohim would be there when he arrived. He said mockingly, you go
>> on ahead. Heck, I will even let you have prime time. I'M going to
>> take a nap, and when you guys finish your foolishness, wake me up. Go
>> ahead now, take your best shot.
>> Bishop Joe O Patterson
>> A blessed memory
>> 1963-1989
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf Of Joe Plummer
>> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 5:50 AM
>> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [tabi] Re: Fw: Gov Scott's Transition Team may be thinking
>> about if one agency should serve all disabilities...
>>
>> Hi, yes, I agree but I will tell you we have about as much chance as a
>> snow ball in hell of getting anything done. The problem is that we are
>> out of sync there is no balance of power any more. So we do not have a
>> check and balance in the Florida government. I have been around
>> government most of my life an politics. I have worked for the Florida
>> legislature for over 30 years. I am telling you there is no balance
>> any more. I also am telling you all that especially North Florida is
>> out of the loop. North Florida is going to suffer these two years and
>> years to come . You are going to see the economy and help for the
>> small man and the helpless and the handicap and the disable and
>> business and state workers go backwards a 100 years. There is going to
>> be business closing every where up here. We can fight and try to be
>> heard but we are not going to gain any ground this two years.
>> Everything is way to the right and veto proof. Just more thoughts.
>>
>>
>>
>> sign,
>> Joe Plummer (JP)
>> joeplummer@xxxxxxx
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf Of Easy Talk
>> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 4:55 AM
>> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [tabi] Fw: Gov Scott's Transition Team may be thinking about
>> if one agency should serve all disabilities...
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Easy Talk" <easytalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <fcb-l@xxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 4:53 AM
>> Subject: Fw: [tabi] Gov Scott's Transition Team may be thinking about
>> if one agency should serve all disabilities...
>>
>>
>>> Mr. Edwards, I think this needs immediate action on behalf of FCB.
>>>
>>> Here is a quote from the message and I don't know what magic they plan
>>> on using but this isn't the case and won't be.
>>>
>>> quote
>>> . Multiple websites dedicated to the various waivers would be
>>> reduced.to>one. This would also create a more user friendly,
>>> accessible system of delivering information. **g Consolidating
>>> multiple call-centers for consumers and providers would still allow
>>> calls to be channeled from one line directly to the appropriate waiver
>>> specialist.
>>>
>>> Lets see, press 1 if you are blind, press 2 if you are hard of
>>> hearing, press 3 if you have a mental disability, press 4 if you have
>>> a spinal disability, press 5 if you have dyslexia, press 6 if you use
>>> a wheel chair and so on and so on. Do you get my point.
>>>
>>> It also says this type of system has been successful in Illinois and
>>> Vermont, Ask Georgia what they think about a 1 stop shop and the mess
>>> they are going through to un do it.
>>>
>>> We have set on our buts to long and let the separate commission for
>>> the blind issue lay dormant to long. Now is the time to act or it
>>> will be to late. If you read this article you will see the plan is to
>>> act quickly so we don't have time to oppose it.
>>>
>>> Robert
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Lighthouse of the Big Bend" <lighthousebigbend@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 3:56 PM
>>> Subject: [tabi] Gov Scott's Transition Team may be thinking about if
>>> one agency should serve all disabilities...
>>>
>>>
>>>> Consumer groups of the Blind/VI may want to get involved, as it looks
>>>> like Gov Scott's Transition Team may be thinking about whether one
>>>> agency should serve everyone with disabilities...
>>>>
>>>> 12-8-10
>>>> Single Department Concept
>>>> A New Service Delivery System for the 21St Century
>>>>
>>>> The purpose of this proposal is to illustrate a method by which
>>>> Florida can create a single, efficient, consumer driven and community
>>>> -- based service delivery system to provide services to the over 6
>>>> million persons with disabilities in Florida. The ultimate goal is to
>>>> reduce administrative costs and increase access to services and
>>>> service dollars; create a more efficient, fraud resistant billing
>>>> system and create an economic stimulus creating new private sector
>>>> jobs.
>>>> . Combining all of the programs and services for persons With
>>>> disabilities, including the Florida Medicaid Waiver programs, under
>>>> one department`-. will enable the State to move precious resources to
>>>> actual service delivery for persons with:.disabilities and seniors
>>>> across the disability spectrum and Recycle.
>>>> . This department can have one point of entry with a standardized
>>>> application, eligibility criteria, provider qualifications, and
>>>> provider rates for all services and programs.
>>>> . Creation of new jobs in the areas of core munity - based service
>>>> delivery and fraud prevention methods. This would mean the
>>>> recruitment of new entrepreneurial minded providers into the system
>> statewide.
>>>> To accomplish this goal, certain units can be removed from current
>>>> departments and placed in the new departmental structure. Personnel
>>>> requirements will then be determined, based on the overall
>>>> organization. Departments effected:
>>>> . Agency for Healthcare Administration (AHCA), the . Department of
>>>> Health (DOH), the . Department of Children and Families (DCF), the .
>>>> Department of Eider Affairs(CARES), the . Department of Education
>>>> (Vocational Rehabilitation and Division of Blind Services), and . The
>>>> Agency for"Persons with Disabilities As this new department is being
>>>> physically formed, a new philosophy will also be nurtured. A
>>>> philosophy of ingenuity, creativity, and an entrepreneurial spirit,
>>>> where employees are encouraged to think "outside of the box" to solve
>>>> the problems we will face in the coming years. We must encourage
>>>> unique, public - private partnerships at every level, in order to
>>>> maximize our precious resources. This includes private entity
>>>> investment into not only service provision but employment
>>>> opportunities for persons with disabilities. It is only through this
>>>> "rebirth" of the physical and philosophical can we have a department
>>>> that is truly responsive to our citizens.
>>>>
>>>> In Florida, every day over 6 million persons, with identified or
>>>> self-reported disabilities study, live, play, and work. The vast
>>>> majority of persons with disabilities can secure and maintain full or
>>>> part -- time competitive employment. They exhibit more courage and
>>>> fortitude daily than some people do in a lifetime. These Floridians
>>>> do not want a hand out but a hand up, a chance to maximize their
>>>> individual independence and to be as included in their community as
>>>> they wish, This untapped resource of ready and willing potential
>>>> employees should not be ignored.
>>>>
>>>> Having all disability programs and services, including Medicaid
>>>> Waivers located within one department, will:
>>>>
>>>> Streamline the application, eligibility, and acceptance process for
>>>> consumers and providers.
>>>>
>>>> Eliminate the "silo" effect, bringing all state organizations working
>>>> with persons with disabilities under one organizational plan and
>>>> chain of command.
>>>>
>>>> Reduce redundant administrative costs to include office space and
>>>> other such equipment.
>>>>
>>>> Create new private sector opportunities for persons who become
>>>> disabled as adults. Require anyone wishing to file for federal
>>>> disability programs to register with Vocational Rehabilitation. Begin
>>>> early working with the person focusing on ways to maximize his/her
>>>> abilities. in many cases, it may be possible for the person with the
>>>> disability to emerge with a better, more lucrative career.
>>>>
>>>> The department will maximize existing resources, such as using the
>>>> Clearinghouse on Disability Information to:
>>>> Maintain one website for all information on disabilities.
>>>> Operate a single toll-free phone number with accessibility built into
>>>> the system. Have a dedicated information referral system that not
>>>> only serves consumers, but providers and other state agencies.
>>>>
>>>> ? Allow the department to standardize the processes to determine
>>>> eligibility (one assessment instrument), provider qualifications and
>>>> enrollment, service limitations, rates of pay, nursing home
>>>> transition initiatives, etc.
>>>>
>>>> ? Reduce or maintain turnaround time in billing to enable providers
>>>> to receive pay for services in a timely fashion, while cutting down
>>>> on potential fraud.
>>>>
>>>> Through a coordinated, functional needs based system, all individuals
>>>> with disabilities will have their needs assessed and identified by a
>>>> Global Assessment with a single Case Plan.
>>>>
>>>> Bryan F. Vaughan, MS Executive Director Commission on Disabilities
>>>>
>>>> 1217/2010 Page 2 of 4
>>>>
>>>> .:. Adapt the existing iBudget algorithm across the disabilities
>>>> spectrum to ensure a consistent and efficient distribution of scarce
>>>> resources.
>>>>
>>>> :. Serve consumers and providers will be served in a timelier and
>>>> more consistent manner statewide.
>>>> One standardized assessment instrument to determine risk of
>>>> institutionalization and eligibility for waiver services would ensure
>>>> services are provided to those most in need and would reduce the
>>>> number of individuals currently on wait lists for the various waivers.
>>>> Provider qualifications and rate of pay will be consistent and allow
>>>> them to serve all populations without having to apply to work with
>>>> multiple waivers and organizations. The Legislature will only need to
>>>> deal with one budget to fund all the waivers. The processes for being
>>>> placed on a wait list will be standardized throughout all the
>>>> individual waivers.
>>>> Funding for community-based, long-term care services would be more
>>>> equitable for each of the disability groups competing for limited
>>>> resources.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Note: Some agencies may be reluctant' to relinquish administration of
>>>> their waiver programs. Consumers and providers currently being served
>>>> by the various waivers may be impacted if service limitations and
>>>> rates of pay are standardized. Use of the iBudget algorithm will
>>>> ensure a person's needs are met in an effective manner. Some
>>>> individual disability groups may be concerned about any change in the
>>>> current structure which can be mitigated through an appropriate
>>>> public information program.
>>>> Evidence to Support Single Department
>>>>
>>>> The states of Illinois and Vermont have already gone to the single
>>>> entity system with good results. Real Choice Systems Change Grant
>>>> Program, Third Year Report: Progress and Challenges of the FY 2002
>>>> and FY 2003 Grantees: (October 1, 2003 -- September 30, 2004) Final
>>>> Report.
>>>> Consolidation
>>>>
>>>> The Governor's Commission on Disabilities, along with personnel from
>>>> the effected departments, advocates, and providers could work towards
>>>> the planning, development, and implementation of this single
>>>> department.
>>>>
>>>> Planning & Timeline
>>>> Planning could begin to consolidate all programs and services,
>>>> including waivers under one department in the 2010 - 2011 fiscal
>>>> year, with implementation occurring in an on-going basis. Full
>>>> consolidation could take until the 2011 -- 2012 fiscal year.
>>>> Estimated Potential Savings
>>>> ? A coordinated waiver program would require fewer administrative
>>>> staff, intake and referral staff, provider enrollment staff and
>>>> fiscal staff to moriitorexpenditures.
>>>> ? There would be a reduction in allocated office space, expenses;,
>>>> and equipment allocations for personnel due to consolidation into one
>>>> agency. Multiple websites dedicated to the various waivers would be
>>>> reduced.to>one. This would also create a more user friendly,
>>>> accessible system of delivering information. **g Consolidating
>>>> multiple call-centers for consumers and providers would still allow
>>>> calls to be channeled from one line directly to the appropriate
>>>> waiver specialist.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Florida currently has a great need for more community - based service
>>>> providers. Partnerships with Colleges of Business at our State
>>>> Universities, as well as the Chamber of Commerce for Persons with
>>>> Disabilities, can promote an entrepreneurial effort to create these
>>>> small provider businesses.
>>>>
>>>> To reduce fraud, a "call and verify" system can be included as part
>>>> of the billing cycle. When a provider bills the department, a random
>>>> verification system will identify a consumer to be called and asked
>>>> if helshe has received the items or services as billed. This process
>>>> will help prevent discrepancies and false claims as are potential
>>>> risks under the current system. The department can either decide to
>>>> use one or multiple verifying agencies. This can be performed by
>>>> workers from home (enabling persons with disabilities, seniors, or
>>>> others who are transportation
>>>> disadvantaged) or a central location.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Lighthouse of the Big Bend
>>>> Guiding People Through Vision Loss
>>>> 3071 Highland Oaks Terrace
>>>> Tallahassee, FL 32301
>>>> (850) 942-3658
>>>> www.lighthousebigbend.org
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