[tabi] Re: City of Tallahassee News Release -

  • From: "Mister Blackjack" <misterblackjack2@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:57:10 -0400

If you read below you  also talked about the mandatory part all so . So it
is ok for you to talk political and no one else can? Also this public
transit thread is about as political as you can get. But I guess since you
are interested in it this is ok.  I just say you can't or shouldn't have two
set of rules one that is for you and another for the list. Either you can or
you can't talk political on the list. Of course you own the list and so you
can do what you want. But maybe that is why the list is not no bigger than
it is and why just only about a dozen people at the most post to the list
and here lately it has only been about public transit. No wonder you have to
give money away to encourage people to post to the list. Oh well I guess it
is about time for me to leave so I will say so long. Oh by the way you all
are fighting a loosing battle and going to lose this public transit thing.
They are going to do what they want and there is nothing you can do about
it. Hear you all around leaving now.




Thanks,
Blackjack
misterblackjack2@xxxxxxxxx
 

-----Original Message-----
From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Chip Orange
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 3:15 PM
To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [tabi] Re: City of Tallahassee News Release - 

I was talking to you Blackjack, and your attempt to head the conversation
towards discussing your feelings on "too much government", and whether this
was manditory, and such like.  we're not here to discuss the policies of
government, or energy conservation, etc., only as it relates to blindness.

thanks.

Chip







------------------------------

Chip Orange
Database Administrator
Florida Public Service Commission

Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
(850) 413-6314

 (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not
necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.)
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mister Blackjack
> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 1:32 PM
> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [tabi] Re: City of Tallahassee News Release -
> 
> Who are you talking to Chip? 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Blackjack
> misterblackjack2@xxxxxxxxx
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 9:20 AM
> To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [tabi] Re: City of Tallahassee News Release -
> 
> this is not an acceptable topic for TABI; we are not going to discuss 
> political philosophies.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Chip Orange
> Database Administrator
> Florida Public Service Commission
> 
> Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> (850) 413-6314
> 
>  (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not 
> necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.)
>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mister Blackjack
> > Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 8:15 AM
> > To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [tabi] Re: City of Tallahassee News Release -
> > 
> > This is what I am talking about it should never be mandatory. 
> > I don't want
> > the government telling me what I need to have in my hone or what I 
> > need to set my thermostat on or controlling anything in my
> house. We
> > already have to much government control over us now.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Blackjack
> > misterblackjack2@xxxxxxxxx
> >  
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chip Orange
> > Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 2:44 PM
> > To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [tabi] Re: City of Tallahassee News Release -
> > 
> > No, it won't be manditory for a very long time, as homes don't have 
> > the needed equipment.  they will likely offer price
> discounts to those
> > who are willing to go on a variable pricing model, and buy
> the needed
> > equipment.
> > 
> > and, there's at least one benefit for the city right away: 
> > that's remote
> > meter reading.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Chip Orange
> > Database Administrator
> > Florida Public Service Commission
> > 
> > Chip.Orange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > (850) 413-6314
> > 
> >  (Any opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not 
> > necessarily reflect those of the Florida Public Service Commission.)
> >  
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Blackjack
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 8:03 AM
> > > To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [tabi] Re: City of Tallahassee News Release -
> > > 
> > > This is great as long as they don't make it mandatory. I think it 
> > > should be a if you want to type of thing. We already have to much 
> > > government control of our lives. Just my thoughts.
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > Blackjack
> > > misterblackjack2@xxxxxxxxx
> > >  
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Allison and Chip 
> > > Orange
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 7:23 AM
> > > To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [tabi] Re: City of Tallahassee News Release -
> > > 
> > > while there's no talking zigbee (that's the protocol for
> > smart energy
> > > use this is talking about) thermostat that I know of;
> > companies like
> > > home automation inc make thermostats which tie into a
> > central system
> > > in your house, and that central system in turn is accessible and 
> > > controllable over your phone or over a web-like interface
> via your
> > > lan, or even over the internet.
> > > 
> > > such thermostats have capabilities like being able to
> adjust to the
> > > price of electricity, which can vary throughout the day if
> > you sign up
> > > for that kind of plan.  so, if electricity gets high in
> > price, you can
> > > set the thermostats to cool a little less, or heat a little
> > less; you
> > > can turn off the hot water heater, and so on.
> > > 
> > > Chip
> > >  
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Lynn Evans
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 10:02 PM
> > > To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [tabi] Re: City of Tallahassee News Release -
> > > 
> > > This is quite wordy. I don't think there was any mention
> of Talking
> > > thermostats.
> > > 
> > >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >   From: City of Tallahassee
> > > <mailto:City_of_Tallahassee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > 
> > >   To: evans-lynn@xxxxxxxxxxx 
> > >   Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 2:40 PM
> > >   Subject: City of Tallahassee News Release -
> > > 
> > >  <http://www.talgov.com>          
> > >  
> > > 
> > > City of Tallahassee Receives $8.9 Million Federal Smart Grid Grant
> > > 
> > > President Barack Obama yesterday announced the award of
> Smart Grid
> > > investment grants to modernize the nation's energy grid, spur 
> > > development of renewable energy sources, stimulate the
> economy and
> > > create new jobs. The City of Tallahassee Utilities was
> selected to
> > > receive $8.9 million to further city efforts to use
> > technology to help
> > > customers manage their power use and save money.
> > > 
> > > The federal smart grid grant will be used to build upon the major 
> > > commitment by the Tallahassee City Commission to
> implement a Smart
> > > Grid system. The system includes the installation of
> 220,000 smart
> > > meters and the associated communications infrastructure,
> > software for
> > > data collection to better manage power use by customers and
> > the system
> > > overall, and smart grid devices for customers including smart 
> > > thermostats, in home displays and other tools that allow
> > customers to
> > > manage their power use.
> > > 
> > > In 2005 the City Commission directed staff to evaluate the
> > potential
> > > for a smart grid system in Tallahassee. At that time, the
> > concept was
> > > being discussed in the industry, but across the nation
> > little movement
> > > was taking place. In March 2007, desiring to be on the
> > cutting edge,
> > > the Commission directed staff to move ahead with
> development of the
> > > system.
> > > By the end of
> > > 2009, the city will have installed 220,000 smart meters as the 
> > > backbone of the system. By the summer / fall of 2010,
> > customers will
> > > be able to utilize the system to manage their power use
> > through such
> > > options as:
> > > 
> > > * Changing your home or business thermostat via the web from any
> > > location. 
> > > * Choosing an electric rate that fits your lifestyle - 
> > > for example,
> > > the option of a lower rate for using power in off peak
> > times such as
> > > evenings or weekends.
> > > * Evaluating your energy fitness, including how your home 
> > > or business
> > > energy use compares to others. 
> > > 
> > > Tallahassee will be one of the first communities in the nation to 
> > > offer Smart Grid services to its utility customers. Upon
> > completion of
> > > the metering and communications infrastructure this year,
> the City
> > > will operate the first electric, gas and water Smart
> > Metering network
> > > in the nation.
> > > 
> > > "We started the investment in smart grid technology before
> > it took off
> > > as a smart concept nationally," said Mayor John Marks. "With the 
> > > receipt of this federal grant, we will be able to do even
> > more to give
> > > our customers greater control, flexibility and
> cost-saving options
> > > with their utilities.
> > > 
> > > "With the support of the Tallahassee City Commission,
> I've had the
> > > opportunity to meet personally with agency officials in
> Washington
> > > D.C., and they understand Tallahassee's work as a leader in
> > the Smart
> > > Grid technology," added Marks. "That's important for our
> > customers as
> > > the bottom line is that they will be able to save energy,
> > save water
> > > and save money."
> > > 
> > > Tallahassee was one of the 100 entities selected for the
> grant from
> > > 400 applicants. According to Reese Goad, Utility Business
> > and Customer
> > > Services Director, additional benefits from the federal
> funding and
> > > the city's investment in Smart Grid technology and the
> > city's Energy
> > > smart Plus (e+) initiative include:
> > > 
> > > * Energy-saving pricing programs 
> > > * Greater customer choices 
> > > * Access to up-to-date customer account information 
> > > * In-home energy usage and information displays 
> > > * More efficient field operations - less staff and trucks 
> > > in the field
> > > and less interruptions for customers 
> > > * Automated leak detection for water meters 
> > > * Improved theft prevention 
> > > * Access to billing and usage information via the web 
> > > * Interactive web-based tools such as online energy 
> > > audits and much
> > > more 
> > > * More efficient power outage restoration - we'll be able 
> > > to identify
> > > the locations of outages for faster repair
> > > 
> > > For more information on energy audit appointments,
> > energy-saving tips
> > > and other e+ programs visit Talgov.com/YOU or call Your Own
> > Utilities
> > > at 891-4YOU (4968).
> > > 
> > > Contact: Reese Goad, Utility Business and Customer Services
> > Director,
> > > 891-6803 or Michelle Bono, Assistant to the City Manager, 891-8200
> > > 
> > > 
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