I think this is put quite nicely and says what i was trying to say a while ago on here. It used to be thought that adding sf oils at trace left only THAT oil addition floating around the soap as an extra little cushion of superfat that wouldn't get eaten by the lye. Now, though, it's pretty commonly understood that most of the saponification takes place in the 24 hours AFTER trace, not during the actual soaping process. There is still much free lye in soap that's come to trace. It's still eating a lot of free oils, and it doesn't distinguish between the Crisco you bought for two bucks at the grocery store, and added to the pot first, and the super-expensive sea buckthorn oil you sacrificed a new pair of shoes for and added at the last minute. Oil is oil, and the lye, at that point, still treats it all the same. Ross Spencer 24 Ocean View Place Rakaia Huts RD3 Leeston Check out my soap and <http://wild-hybrid.co.nz/> jewellery