[soapcraft] Re: Colour

Understand entirely Jan...I¹ve been in panic mode today and I can only wait
to see what my ricing mix looks like when I unmould tomorrow.  Great to hear
that the colour is OK, it should harden up.

Louise

PS Unsure about pots, I use stainless steel pots


on 20/6/10 2:40 PM, Jan Abernethy at janabernethy@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:

> Hi all
>  
> After my colour disaster yesterday and the strangeness that was happening, I
> have been un-molding my soaps today and they seem a little softer than my
> first batch, but they should harden (I hope) and the colour turned out to be a
> very pretty colour, with me using the wrong stuff, so I¹m happy with the
> outcome, yay!   Talk about panic though, when something goes wrong, it¹s
> terrible, you think Ohh what a waste a time and money that was, especially
> when you don¹t think it¹s going to turn out ­ so I am very pleasantly
> surprised by the outcome.  My first batch was harder than this one so I¹m
> hoping this batch will harden a lot more.
>  
> Does the pot you make it in, make a difference?  I had a old pot of Mums
> (clean) but wonder whether the type of stuff they used in old pots are
> reactive to the soap making procedure.  As I said yesterday it hissed, like
> when you boil a jug of water and empty it too soon.
>  
> As a beginner I¹m keeping everything basic at this stage so I get the knack,
> especially of the ³trace² when it happens.  I¹d rather get the basics right
> before heading off in the adventure direction.
>  
> Now I can¹t wait to buy some correct colour for CP soap and achieve the colour
> I desire.  I can use the wrong colour for some M&P soap one day.
>  
> Thanks for everyone¹s help, it¹s been great.  And Gina ­ it looks like soap,
> smells like soap, it is soap!
>  
> Jan
>  
> 
> From: soapcraft-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:soapcraft-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Soapcraft
> Sent: Saturday, 19 June 2010 4:24 p.m.
> To: soapcraft@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [soapcraft] Re: Colour
>  
> It will probably set.  It is very rare that we loose a batch of soap.  It will
> likely make great laundry soap also.
> 
> Assuming that the base is water (Rebecca might know) they should not effect
> your soap.  So it should be ok.  You will know tomorrow so pls let us know.
> If it looks like soap, smells like soap then it probably is soap :-)
> 
> gina
> 
> 
> On 19/06/10 4:13 PM, "Jan Abernethy" <janabernethy@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Gina
> About ½ of the little plastic bottle.  The colour is the liquid, I think I
> bought the wrong stuff.
> My first batch of soap made last week was exactly the same ingredients apart
> from the colour.  The water is lavender hydrosol from our lavender oil
> distillation and was the same as used last week. Caustic soda same, everything
> same except the colour.
> Do you think it will set?
> Regards Jan
>  
> 
> From: soapcraft-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:soapcraft-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Soapcraft
> Sent: Saturday, 19 June 2010 3:57 p.m.
> To: soapcraft@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [soapcraft] Re: Colour
> 
> Now on reading your second post my guess is right.
> 
> Yes pigments for soap.
> 
> That may have casued the hissing??  Did you wind up adding the whole bottle?
> 
> Gina
> 
> 
> On 19/06/10 3:08 PM, "Jan Abernethy" <janabernethy@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I¹ve just looked and touched a bit and it¹s really soft, runnyish, not at all
> like my previous ³first² batch.  I don¹t know if it will set, panic, panic.
>  
> The colour I got from Aromatics and More. Water Soluble Liquid Colors - Is
> this not suitable for CP soap? I think I bought the wrong stuff  - was I
> supposed to get Pigments for Soap?
> Maybe that¹s why is all turned to custard, so to speak.
>  
> J
> 
> 
> 
> From: soapcraft-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:soapcraft-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Louise Shing
> Sent: Saturday, 19 June 2010 2:55 p.m.
> To: soapcraft@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [soapcraft] Re: Colour
> 
> Hi Jan
> 
> 
> The colours I use come from Soapcraft and are in powder form I used to just
> add about 1/4 teaspoon or less to the batch straight, now, after advice from
> Ross and Liz, I put the same amount in a little bit of olive oil and give it a
> quick whizz with a coffee frother, then mix with the batch of soap after
> trace.  Yeah colour is a really hard thing to get right, when I first started
> I used a rather heavy hand and had soaps that were full of colour (in spite of
> Gina¹s advice to go easy with the powder) then next batch put in too little
> and no change in colour kept adding and adding and adding and was (like you)
> disappointed with the colour, but after unmoulding discovered quite a pretty
> colour.  Just to let you know that the violet colour is, in my opinion, very
> difficult to work with.  I¹m very fond of the Raspberry Red colour and Sky
> Blue (you only need a small amount).
> 
> I¹m not sure about the rest as I¹ve never had froth or hissing when mixing
> oils and lye water (but I¹m super cautious-type and do everything slowly).
> Hopefully others might have an idea.  Good luck and let us know how the colour
> turns out.  By the way one of the best colours I have had came out of a batch
> that was creamy-light pink in colour but after unmoulding was a nice pale
> pink!!
> 
> 
> Cheers
> Louise
> 
> 
> on 19/6/10 2:35 PM, Jan Abernethy at janabernethy@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> Hi Louise, Gina and everyone
>  
> I made some soap today with Gina¹s colour.  I put a drop, another drop and
> ended up putting more and more because it was hardly making any difference at
> all.  I was the mauve little container. It didn¹t turn out mauve, it¹s a kind
> of creamy colour.  I also think something was not quite right, because I
> seemed to have froth when I put the water mixture in with the oils.  It is the
> same recipe I used last time but I times¹d it by 4 to make a bigger batch as
> there wasn¹t enough last time.  It also started hissing a little like it was
> reacting.
>  
> Any ideas to what I may have done wrong.  I was very very careful and measured
> everything to the enth degree but something went wrong and I¹m so disappointed
> about the colour. I was expected mauve. I put it into the moulds so will be
> interested to see whether it worked at all.  I made it a lot thinner than my
> previous ³to thick to pour² time.
>  
> Thoughts other soapers for a newbie?
> Regards Jan
>  
> 
> From: soapcraft-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:soapcraft-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Louise Shing
> Sent: Tuesday, 15 June 2010 10:40 p.m.
> To: soapcraft@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [soapcraft] Re: photo
> 
> Hi Jan
> 
> You have to act quickly when mixing soap as soon as you get trace you need to
> mix in colour and eos and pour.  As a beginner I used to always have a thick
> trace as had to make sure had trace before pouring.  Now after several months
> or so (and lots more confidence) I sometimes get a thin  trace and when I pour
> with thin trace I get a nice smooth top/pattern.
> 
> You¹ve used the wrong stuff for colouring cp-soap ­ cake decorating gel is for
> cakes ­ the colour won¹t take to cp-soap.  I use Gina¹s colours which work
> well, use only about a pinch but mix well first in a little bit of oil ­ they
> are bright colours.  If you¹re more inclined to use natural - Liz (on the
> list) sells natural colour ­ haven¹t used yet but I intend to try out alkanet
> root soon.
> 
> Can¹t use soap straight away as it needs to cure for a minimum of 4 weeks ­
> shed water, get right PH, etc otherwise might be too harsh on skin.
> 
> 
> Cheers
> Louise
> 
> Nighty night!
> 
> 
> 
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