How do you put a price on something that you say is priceless? -----Original Message----- From: sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 5:18 PM To: sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [sib-access] Re: Various types of Selection Dan, Thanks! Another captured Dan-dy Tidbit. I call this "Sibelius Selection Explained", and have added it to my growing collection of text files. I may decide to sell my collection some day to the highest bidder -- it's priceless. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Rugman" <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 13:37 Subject: [sib-access] Re: Various types of Selection Dale, Ctrl+Alt+A opens the select bars dialog. This just allows you to quickly select a passage but you need to know the start and end bars of the passage you want. You also can't have the selection ending or starting in the middle of a bar. Ctrl+Shift+A is the rather mystically named "select more" feature. If a single note within a chord is selected then pressing it selects the entire chord. If an entire chord is selected, or a note which is not part of a chord, then pressing it selects the entire bar. This means that if you have selected one note within a chord, you must press the keystroke twice, once to select the entire chord and twice to select the entire bar. As for the different types of selections, they are reported, only not automatically. The following summary (very brief) should help. Single selection: This only contains one item. This will always be the case after navigating the score. Pressing F5 describes the most important properties of the item. Pressing F6 reports its rhythmic position and duration (if appropriate). Multiple selection: This contains more than one item. It is easy to confuse this with a passage selection (which can also contain more than one item). A multiple selection can contain any combination of items from anywhere in the score, whereas a passage selection is a continuous "block" of music. A multiple selection will normally occur after using a filter. For example, filtering a passage to contain only voice 1 notes will result in a multiple selection. Pressing F5 will speak the words "multiple selection" followed by a statistical count of the different types of item in the selection. Passage selection: This is made by defining a start and end point for the selection. Sighted users do this by just dragging the mouse around. The options for VI users is to hold down shift and then use the arrow keys (although this is rather slow), using the select bars dialog (Ctrl+Alt+A) which allows you to define the start and end bar, or by using the Sibelius Access selection marker. This works by moving to the first note and pressing Ctrl+F9 and then moving to the last note and pressing Shift+F9. Passage selections can contain any combination of staves. Use plug-ins > access > include / exclude staves to determine which ones. F5 speaks the words "passage selection". F6 speaks the start and end of the selection. F2 speaks the highest and lowest staves in the selection. System passage: This is similar to a passage except that it includes all staves and system items between the start and end times. You can turn a regular passage selection into a system passage selection by pressing Alt+Shift+A. This simply adds everything between the start and end times of the passage selection so that the entire score is selected between those two points. You need to do this if you want to delete the underlying bars in a score and not just the items within them. F5 says "passage selection" (I'm going to change that to "system passage"). F6 speaks the start and end times. F2 says "system". Hope this helps, Dan Rugman visit the new on-line resource for visually impaired musicians and home of Sibelius Access. www.musicaccess.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dale Lieser Sent: 08 October 2009 12:13 To: sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [sib-access] Various types of Selection Dan, What are the differences between alt+ctrl+a and ctrl+shift+a? Also, does the bar/passage have to be selected before either of these keystrokes which modify a selection? Would you consider having Access speak the various selection types? Thank you. 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