Dan, In my example where I'm adding items to notes, I threw in a slur. All the stems are up in this example and the slur is spoken as being above regardless of whether I've flipped the slurs arc. In fact, the arc of the slur is below the noteheads which are all on low staff lines. As a further experiment, I wrote some notes with stems down on upper staff lines and placed a slur. Again, the slur said "slur above," regardless of the direction of the slur's arc. In other words, you never hear "slur below." Thanks, Kevin If you wish to unsubscribe, send a blank message with the single word, unsubscribe - in the Subject line to: sib-access-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx