[sib-access] Re: [Bulk] enlargement the spaces

The Layout menu, under document layout.

Then read through this tutorial I wrote a couple years ago. It should help.

Tabbing around in the Sibelius layout > Document Setup Dialog

this can be confusing until you understand the arrangement and the impact of 
selecting some of the button choices. The
names of the edit fields do not always correspond correctly and so you must 
keep track of where you are at all times.

Use the following process to learn what's here:

1. When you enter the dialog, you are first placed on  a set of radio 
buttons for mm, inches, or point. This works fine.
2. Shift-Tab and you land on a checkbox called "After 1st page". this is 
also correct. If checked, you will be later
presented with staff margins to edit for pages other than the first page.
3. Okay now let's tab twice to land on the page size combo box, which is 
correct. Choose what you want.
4. Next tab is the portrait/landscape radio buttons, also okay.
5. Tab again and you can edit the page width.
6. Tab again and you can edit the page height.
7. Tab again to adjust the staff height (top line to bottom line).
8. Tab again to a set of radio buttons, which are also correct. select your 
choice to have page margins to be the same,
mirrored, or different.
9. Tab again and you will hear "left pages:", and that will be all the clue 
you get for any of these following possibilities,
and here's where the dialog starts to lead us astray, because all we hear is 
"edit":

9.1 Same - Next 4 edit boxes are top, left, right, bottom margins for both 
pages.
9.2. mirrored -  next 4 edit boxes are top, outer, inner, bottom. (this I 
need someone sighted to confirm; not absolutely
sure of the outer/inner order)

9.3. different - next 6 edit boxes are top, left page left margin, left page 
right margin, right page left margin, right page
right margin, bottom.
NOTE: top and bottom margins are always the same for left/right pages; they 
cannot be set differently in this dialog)

10. So far, so good. I guess we all think the whole dialog is just fine, 
don't we?
11. Tab   out of the page margin edit boxes and you hear: Full names:". This 
is wrong, wrong, wrong! Naughty Sibelius.
12. You are actually in a grouping titled: "Staff Margins". Additional text 
says: "this is the default distance of the staves
inside the page margins".
13. This first edit field should really be called "Staff Margin top, 1st 
page". This is the amount of space above the top
staff, separating it from the top margin. this is where you can give the 
title and other stuff some more room.
14. The next three edit fields are correctly labeled - the Amount of space 
for the presence of instrument names - Full,
Short, or No Names, which appear left of the staff. I'll leave these to the 
student as an exercise.
15. After the "No names" edit, tab again and you will again hear "No names". 
this is wrong.
16. This should actually be saying: "Staff Margin Bottom, 1st page". this 
sets the amount of space between the bottom
staff and the bottom margin, to allow room for things like a copyright.
17. If you tab and hear "greater" or "less" don't press this. It just 
changes a graphical representation of the pages, that some of us can't see.
18. tab again to hear cancel, and tab again to hear OK. Stop! Do not press 
OK yet. There's possibly more lurking here.
19. If you did check the checkbox "After 1st page" (remember step 2 above?) 
then you will hear "Full Names:".
19.1.  Drat! Wrong label again. This should have said: "Staff Margin top, 
after 1st page".  This allows you to have a
different spacing above the top staff on any page other than the 1st page.
19.2. Almost done. Tab again and if you do have another edit box it will be 
the staff margin bottom for the other pages.
20. Now you can shift-tab back to OK and press the button to save.

In general it appears that the edit boxes after the staff size are arranged 
in the dialog approximately where they would
appear on the left and right pages. this is why they jump around so much 
when we tab through them. See how simple

Dave Carlson
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Subject: [sib-access] Re: [Bulk] enlargement the spaces


Dave,
i use Sibelius 5.2.5.
Saeed

On 11/12/11, Farfar on Laptop <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> What version of Sibelius are you using?
> Dave Carlson
> Sent from my Dell Latitude E6520 using Windows 7, San Francisco Bay Area
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> To: <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 03:41
> Subject: [Bulk] [sib-access] enlargement the spaces
>
>
> hi all.
> how can enlarge the spaces between the staves? i want to write text
> and expressions under or above each staff, but they overlap on each
> other.
> thanks and regards,
> Saeed
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