[sib-access] Re: Appearance of a Cross-Staff Note

  • From: "Dale Lieser" <dale.lieser@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 17:08:12 -0500

Dave,

It does help. I had looked through that section of the manual, but still
wasn't clear on what the resulting notation would look like or, more to the
point, whether it is something we can accomplish without assistance.

Dale


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Dale,

There's some good description in the Sib 5 Reference manual, section 2.5 
Beaming. Note that in this manual they are usually referred to as 
"Cross-staff beaming" rather than simply as cross-staff notes.

In my further recollection now that I've read the manual, crossing the staff

from one note to the next without any beam isn't an issue. I think it can be

enhanced by using a slur or if more appropriate a line to show connectivity 
and encourage the idea that the hands are switching.

In the case where a beam is necessary (eighth, sixteenth, etc) the beam is 
placed on both the up and down stems of the two successive notes, either 
level or slanted depending on how much of a jump there is in the pitch.

So for example going from the bass staff to the treble staff with two eighth

notes in succession, you have a normal note head with a stem to its right, 
pointing up ending at a beam toward the right. Then the treble note stem 
connects to that same beam and goes upward to the note head on the treble 
staff, the glob to the right of the stem.

Hope this helps a bit.

Dave Carlson
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Subject: [sib-access] Re: Appearance of a Cross-Staff Note


Sounds good, Dave. Thanks.

If anyone else has descriptions, too, the more the merrier.

Dale


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Subject: [sib-access] Re: Appearance of a Cross-Staff Note

Dale,

I'm thinking that the stem extends to the other staff, and that there's
another note head at the other end, on that staff, with any necessary flags
in-between. Not positive on this, but I'm pretty sure I've seen this type of

note construction in my past.

Dave Carlson
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Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 12:59
Subject: [sib-access] Appearance of a Cross-Staff Note


Hello Everyone,


A couple of weeks ago we got into a discussion of Cross-staff notes. I know
how to create them, but I also would like to know what they look like. Is it
just that the stem is long enough to stretch into the other staff?



Thanks for taking the time to respond.



Dale





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