[SI-LIST] Re: thermal relief
- From: steve weir <weirsp@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: Gareth.Baron@xxxxxxx, <jan.gillis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 17:44:09 -0700
Gareth, I agree with your advice that thermal relief should only be used
where needed. But the effects are not as terrible for the leaded component
as you make them sound.
You can estimate the effects rather easily by looking at the spreading
resistance and inductance for a solid ring with the via ID, and the spoke
width for the OD, and then just multiply that up by the area difference
between the ring and the spoke areas. Leaded components that would be
impedance sensitive like VRM modules are usually handled with a patch of
vias. In that case, relieving the component via has almost no effect.
Regards,
Steve.
At 05:22 PM 4/28/2004 -0700, Gareth Baron wrote:
>My thoughts would be:
>
>Since you now have mini stubs going from the via [for thermal releifed =
>pads]
>to the reference plane you will be decreasing the skin-area for the =
>current
>return path at high frequencies - hence the impedance will go up at =
>higher
>frequencies. Ie the little stubs will act like series inductors. =
>You'll
>probably have to do some calculations using an inductance model to find =
>out
>how serious this is.
>
>My advice: Don't use thermal relief on vias for the following reasons:
>
>1) You add unnecessary inductance
>2) You're more likely to have isolations/islands on power planes since
>the thermal pads are easily cut-off from the power planes.
>
>Gareth.
>
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>
>Hi all,
>
>I am designing a four-layer microwave synthesizer. The second layer is=20
>defined as a ground plane. For soldering purposes, it would be preferred =
>to=20
>make use of thermal reliefs for the ground vias. But I wonder what would =
>be=20
>the influence of the pin-to-ground plane impedance. Can anyone provide =
>some=20
>guideline for this purpose?
>
>Thanks!
>
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