[SI-LIST] Re: power planes (4-layer-board)
- From: "Pommerenke, David" <davidjp@xxxxxxx>
- To: "Pommerenke, David" <davidjp@xxxxxxx>, "Daniel Bauer" <daniel.bauer16@xxxxxx>, <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 12:05:43 -0600
Daniel,
It is quite common not to use power planes in 4-layer boards. There are reasons
for using power planes and reasons to avoid them.
Power planes maybe needed:
a) Some ICs need a low power-GND impedance for SI reasons. The effect of having
a power plane and local decoupling or only local decoupling starts to be
relevant between 100 - 1 GHz, depending on the
spacing between the power plane and GND (typically in a 4-layer board very
large), the placing, size and connection of local decoupling, the use of mutual
inductance between vias to reduce the apparent
inductance in the loop formed by the decoupling capacitor etc.
The IC interconnect forms an inductor and the on-die capacitance maybe
pretty large, values from 100pF (very small) to 10nF (typical DSP) to uF occur.
Thus, the interconnect inductance (from as small as 50pF to a few nH) and
the on-die capacitance forms a low pass filter. The high frequency current from
switching is provided
from on-die capacitance. Below some transition frequency, mabye 10 MHz -
500Mhz the charge is provided by the PCB. Without knowing more about the IC,
the stackup etc.
it is hard to say where the transition occurs. But overall, in very many
cases there is no need for power planes from the SI point of view, as the
effect of the power planes is in
a frequency range in which the IC uses on-die capacitance to provide
charge. In a 4 layer board, if layer 2 is used for GND and layer 3 for power
there maybe about 40 mil spacing
between the planes, making the power-gnd plane arrangement to be not so
effective and the via connections releatively long. Thus, there is a good
chance that a power plane does
not gain from an SI point of view.
One should also distinguish between analyzing core VDD current and I/O VDD
current.
b) It the currents are very large a power plane is needed. For example, this
Pentium may need 50Amp at 1.3V.
c) Sometimes there are so many connections that it is simply very difficult to
run power traces. It is not uncommon to have a small power plane under a BGA
and local decoupling, but no larger power
plane. This way it is easy to connect all the balls that need power to the
local decoupling capacitors, but no large plane is used.
d) I think often power planes are used, just because it is (it was?) standard
practise, also it is faster to use power planes, as less traces need to be
routed.
Power planes also cause problems
e) EMC. For EMI it is much better to avoid planes. They form relatively large
antennas (even a few mV are a problem) if there are no other planes to shield
and no enclosure to shield. In many
cases people have designed PCBs with and without power planes (keeping all
component locations the same) and compared teh EMI. I am only aware of cases in
which this improved the
EMI.
f) Routing space. Less space used for power planes allows better routing.
g) Shielding clock traces. One can now rout a clock trace in layer 3 and have
ground on layer 4 and some stitching, this way the clock trace is shielded.
This is possible for pretty much all
fast (high EMI risk) traces. Thus, this contributes to the reduction of EMI
A stackup option is
Components
1: Some signal traces, ground fill only if well stiched to gnd
2: GND
3: Fast signals (high EMI risk), other signals, some power and ground fill
4: Power, slow signals (low EMI risk), power, ground fill.
Some decoupling on the back side if the space was too little on the top side
It is important to stich the ground fills well, otherwise they form resonators
which can lead to EMI problems, also the ground fills in layer 4 now carry the
return current for the fast signals (as the spacing to them is much smaller
than the spacing to the ground plane). Thus, to control the return current path
vias need to be placed close to the transistions.
There are some risk in routed power.
The traces are transmission lines and they transform the impedance from one end
to the other, thus, they can cause resonances. If no ferrite beads are used the
resonances are at higher frequencise (> 100 Mhz), but if ferrite beads are used
one needs to be aware that those beads are pretty high Q inductors at lower
frequencies. Thus, one can form resonating circuits in the low MHz range, or
hundreds of kHz. Those can cause functionality problems, or, even worse, hit
the same frequency as a swiched power converter.
I suggest to simualte a trace-routed power distribution system. This is not so
difficult as no full wave solution is needed. SPICE will just work fine.
A couple of papers have been published on the avoidence of power planes, mainly
for EMI reasons. Please contact me davidjp@xxxxxxx for further information.
Regards,
Dr. David Pommerenke
MST EMClab (former UMR EMC lab)
Missouri University of Science&Technology (former UMR)
davidjp@xxxxxxx , 573 308 2019
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Sent: Sat 2/14/2009 6:37 AM
To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [SI-LIST] power planes (4-layer-board)
Hi,
the standard layout for an 4-layer PCB is, using outer layers for the signals
and the two inner layers for one ground and one power plane. The power plane
seems to have a few advantages as well as disadvantages (using an 4-layer
board).
If a trace running at the top layer has to change to the bottom layer - also
the return current has to change the layer (using stitched capacitors).
What do you think about the proposal to use the third layer for ground as well
as for power? On every position where an signal trace is running at the bottom
layer, the third layer will be a ground plane, connected to the ground plane on
the second layer.... and when there`s no trace on the bottom layer I will use
an power plane on the third layer. From this it follows that I will get some
power islands on the third layer which were connected with traces on the bottom
or top layer. The complete return current should use the ground plane (which
has an lower impedance) and not one of the small power islands.
Would there be an impedance change for the signal traces changing the layer
(top to bottom or vica versa) when both inner layers will use an ground plane
where the signal is running?
x----------| (top layer - signal layer)
GND | GND (second layer is a complete ground plane)
Power | GND (ground and power islands)
|---------x (bottom layer - signal layer)
The line will show a signal trace changing from the top to the bottom layer.
Both ground planes using at the inner layers, will be connected together by
many vias. Could you tell me if this would be a good decision improving signal
integrity? Are there any kind of disadvantages?
best regards
Daniel
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