I assumed Fred (of Apsim) was going to pitch in. So I held back for a while. Anyway, Ray, as others have pointed out it is due to the off-diagonal element being many orders of magnitude smaller than the diagonal element. All off-diagonal elements should be negative. This one was positive due to numerical error. There are a number of options to increase the accuracy of ApsimRLGC depending on the structure. Fred may be able to comment on that. Raj Raghuram Sigrity, Inc. "Achieve what others can't" raghu@xxxxxxxxxxx http://www.sigrity.com 4675 Stevens Creek Blvd. , Ste 130 Santa Clara, CA-95051 PH: 408-260-9344 x116 CELL: 408-390-9614 FAX: 408-260-9342 > -----Original Message----- > From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Ray Anderson > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 10:08 AM > To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [SI-LIST] non-negative off diagonal capacitive matrix elements > ?? > > > > > I've just extracted the RLGC matrices for 5 coupled > striplines using Apsimtech RLGC. > > As expected, the diagonal elements of the capacitive matrix are > positive capacitance values. All the off-diagonal elements are > negative EXCEPT one. Is this correct. It has been a while since I've > thought about this, but I was under the impression the capacitive > off diag element were all negative. Anyone know for sure ?? > > The element in column 1 row 5 is the one I question: > > > 3.1600e-15 > -4.9360e-16 3.2540e-15 > -2.0080e-17 -4.8990e-16 3.2540e-15 > -1.3380e-18 -1.9820e-17 -4.8990e-16 3.2540e-15 > 3.1280e-20 -1.3380e-18 -2.0080e-17 -4.9360e-16 3.1600e-15 > > > > > -Ray > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu