Do I know the process? Well, does making over 14,000 models from measurement qualify us as knowing how to do it? I'm not familiar with the 4155 but it looks like it would be OK for measuring DC characteristic and getting C_comp. But where are the AC measurements? Word Generator? Power for the device under test? Tom Dagostino Teraspeed Labs 13610 SW Harness Lane Beaverton, OR 97008 503-430-1065 http://www.teraspeed.com tom@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC 121 North River Drive Narragansett, RI 02882 401-284-1827 Teraspeed is the registered service mark of Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC -----Original Message----- From: zhangfeng [mailto:zhang__feng@xxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 10:51 PM To: tom@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: RE: [SI-LIST] Re: creating an IBIS model... Dear Tom, You got my idea... Do you know the process of creating a ibis model from measurement? We are thinking of buying agilent's HP-4155 for model creation... Thanks. > Lynne, that assumes Zhang is deriving the model from simulation not > measurements. To make an IBIS model from measurements, which the JTAG > question implies, Zhang would have to place the output into a high state and > a low state an off state or input mode if applicable and get transitions off > of it by controlling the IC. Depending on the component, the test system > available to Zhang, the specific component and the specific pins to be > modeled there are a number of methods used to accomplish this control. JTAG > in only one of the ways of accomplishing this. > > Tom Dagostino > Teraspeed Labs > 13610 SW Harness Lane > Beaverton, OR 97008 > 503-430-1065 > http://www.teraspeed.com > tom@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC > 121 North River Drive > Narragansett, RI 02882 > 401-284-1827 > > Teraspeed is the registered service mark of > Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC > > -----Original Message----- > From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of lgreen > Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 10:05 AM > To: zhang__feng@xxxxxxxx; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; > si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: creating an IBIS model... > > > Hello, Zhang, > > The state of an I/O buffer is a simulation parameter. 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