In reading the PCI specification for 66MHz cPCI backplanes, it states one should use 65 ohms for the bussed signals. I believe that COTS backplanes use a recipe like this with traditional strip-line construction. It also states the 66MHz backplanes should be 5 slots or less. =20 We need to design a 5-slot cPCI rigid-flex-rigid backplane which also includes routing for lots of 100 ohm differential I/O pairs. It is only the I/O that crosses the flex. The cPCI section is the traditional 0.8" pitch using the normal hard metric connectors in one of the rigid sections. =20 =20 My problem is that it takes (4) double sided flex layers for all the I/O signals that cross between the hard boards. At 5 mils dielectric per flex, it is almost impossible to make the 65 ohms on those layers. If I use a traditional 65 ohm stripline for the PCI signals, and only use the flex layers for the I/O, my backplane will be greater than 0.200" thick. =20 My question is how well a 66HMz cPCI would work running the signals at 50 ohms. Does anyone have any experience with this? I'm not sure how much margin is in the 65 recipe in the spec, and I don't have good models for the connectors and such to trust a simulation. =20 My only other idea was to stackup the PCI area differently than the rest of the backplane and essentially make them asymmetrical striplines using a plane-void-signal-plane, where the I/O would be more of a plane-signal plane stackup. No signals would need to cross a stack up change. However, some people have been worried about the manufacturing yield of doing it. Thanks for your help. Brian ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu