[SI-LIST] Re: Which tool is the best

Hello Jim,
 
I read from your email that ICX is not that hard to learn/use anymore.  Would 
you elaborate on your opinion?  Would you care to provide a brief pros/cons 
summary of the two tools, similar to Ravinder's?  I understand that this will 
be based on your and your colleagues' experience with these tools.
 
Thanks,
Oscar 
 

"Peterson, James F (FL51)" <james.f.peterson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I find comments such as those of Ravinder Ajmani to be exactly the
right kind of comments - 


The only problem I have with Ravinder's comments is that there are 25
proficient users of Internconnectix here at Honeywell who would say he is
very wrong about his 10 year old opinion regarding ICX's "steep learning
curve". (And we also own Hyperlynx.)

The problem with this type of discussion is it can mis-represent products
and most of it is opinion-based. Comparing this subject with other SI
subjects which are less opinions and more facts, I can understand why folks
would like to limit the discussion.

best regards,
Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: Sol Tatlow [mailto:Sol.Tatlow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 3:22 AM
To: cgrassosprint1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Mohanty, Girish C. (UMR-Student);
Ravinder.Ajmani@xxxxxxxx; dan.crain@xxxxxxx
Cc: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Which tool is the best


My penny's worth: if an SI-list is NOT the right place for a
discussion on SI tools, where is ?!?

It may be true that as a student you have free access to such
software. It may also be true that you can get 30 day trial licenses
to be able to 'try them out'.

But let's be honest: these are not java-based over-the-internet demo
games that you can 'play with' for 10 minutes, and know whether it's
going to be the right one for you. My experience is that to fully test
such a program, you could easily need 1 to 2+ weeks, and to test 4 or
more pieces of software - who on EARTH has that kind of time?!?

I find comments such as those of Ravinder Ajmani to be exactly the
right kind of comments - no sales person is going to tell you these
kinds of problems, and it might take weeks to discover these yourself,
although they could be critical to your own use of a particular package.
These comments help someone to narrow the choice down in fore-field,
so as to only have to evaluate one tool, at the most perhaps 2.

Comments such as Dan Crain's are also exactly on the button: if you
don't like a particular thread, 'sort by subject' in Outlook (or
similar) and hit delete, for crying out loud!
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-----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Charles Grasso [mailto:cgrassosprint1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. April 2004 04:16
An: Mohanty, Girish C. (UMR-Student); Ravinder.Ajmani@xxxxxxxx; =
si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Betreff: [SI-LIST] Re: Which tool is the best


OK you asked:
As a former employee of a SI tool vendor I know that the design =
environment
is critically important to the success or lack thereof of any simulation
tool. More often than not you get experience based on a limted set of
conditions and typically the tool vendors, who monitor this list, do not
respond in a public forum. Instead of trying to get cheap answers do =
your
own homework and decide for your self. BTW as a student you get access =
to
simulation tools for FREE typically ... you would be in a much bettr
position to make your own decisions.

So discussions vis a vis the relative worth of a tool is pointless and
unfair to the many and excellent tool vendors.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mohanty, Girish C. (UMR-Student) [mailto:gcm6w3@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 5:31 PM
To: cgrassosprint1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Ravinder.Ajmani@xxxxxxxx;
si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [SI-LIST] Re: Which tool is the best


Dear Members:

My e-mail has reference to the text appended herewith.

Just wanted to know in my small wisdom as to what is wrong with a tools
related discussion. I am sure this is a pure SI related discussion going
on, and its healthy as well.

Thanks,
Girish C Mohanty

-----Original Message-----
From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Charles Grasso
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 8:20 PM
To: Ravinder.Ajmani@xxxxxxxx; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Which tool is the best


OK - thats enough. Please contact the various manufacturers and try the
tools yourself. The pick the tool that best suits your environment. No
more tool analysis pleeeease....

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