[SI-LIST] Re: Voltage rating of a Ceramic capacitor
- From: Bill Owsley <owsley@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 18:13:24 -0400
to contribute to the email flood you're getting...
I had run across some cap vendor specs that showed a strong deviation of
capacitance from the nominal depending on the DC bias and dielectric
used. Since most of the caps are used in a DC environment, but tested with
an AC signal, the stated capacitance isn't there.
- Bill
At 05:34 PM 06/21/2001 -0400, you wrote:
>Since I have received a flood of emails both through the list and directly, I
>will try to respond to all of you in a single email to the list concerning
>your questions on my post. If I miss anything please email me directly.
>
>First, yes, NPO has a higher failure rate than X7R. This is because there
>are two principle failure modes in X7R and only one in NPO. Yes, I said this
>correctly. The failure mode is due to complex processes but in X7R they are
>shared so the overall stress is less while all of the stress in one mode
>causes early failure in NPO. The current leakage rate increases in NPO by a
>power of 2.46 while X7R increases by a power of only 1.42 when aged under
>heated bias. This leads to failure rates several orders of magnitude higher
>for NPO caps at low voltages. The failure rate is even higher than NPO for
>Z5U or Y5V caps since one of the failure modes is now again under principle
>stress. In HALT testing, X7R caps will reach a 30 percent failure rate in
>about 170 hours and Z5U will reach the same failure rate in only 45 hours.
>So for highest reliability use X7R followed by NPO and lowest reliability
>option would be the Z5U or Y5V caps. I will send a pdf version of a
>technical paper on the HALT screening test I developed for zero failure high
>reliability designs to anyone who requests it. (This will probably elicit
>another flood of emails so be patient if it does not arrive tomorrow.)
>
>Second, why I don't recommend Z5U caps. Beyond the reliability discussion
>above, the principle reason that should concern EMI and SI designers is the
>very nonlinear voltage to capacitance response at low voltage. I have seen
>some transients and switching effects become magnified because of this effect
>and lead to a closure of eye-diagrams. The ferromagnetic aging effect is
>another problem. Manufacturers will sometimes reduce the aging effect by
>heating Z5U and Y5V caps above their Curie temperature and then cool them
>under bias to reduce the aging effect while they sit on the shelf. But the
>effect returns when you expose them again to unbiased heat above the Curie
>temperature (soldering, reflow, etc.).
>
>The out of circuit HALT tester I designed uses a machined Teflon block bolted
>to an aluminum base. The Teflon block was machined with channels about 75
>mils wide and 150 mils deep. At one end of and common to all the channels
>was a nickel/gold plated copper metal strip which was the circuit ground. At
>the other end of the channel was a spring loaded push pin which was also
>nickel/gold plated. It is a simple operation to load caps by retracting the
>push pin, dropping the cap into the channel and releasing the push pin
>against the cap to hold it in and make electrical contact during heated bias.
> Please be aware that a failing cap will usually short and explode during
>HALT testing. If you protect each cap with a fuse then keep it outside the
>oven -- high temp fuses are expensive. You can eliminate the fuse if you use
>a high voltage-high current power supply. Please be careful with this test!
>
>Next, You will almost always achieve your best results at high frequency by
>paralleling several X7R/NPO caps and using gnd/pwr plane capacitance to reach
>the capacitance, impedance and ESR characteristics you need. There are
>papers already written on these procedures so I will not go further with this.
>
>I should mention, however, that I have seen people suggesting that you should
>use Z5U and Y5V because they have a lower inductance. Yes, it is often true
>that X7R caps will have lower inductance. The higher dielectric constant of
>Z5U and Y5V caps allows the manufacturer to get the same capacitance with
>fewer plates in the same size package which will lead to lower inductance.
>But the other problems remain! The solution to this is to use low voltage
>X7R ceramic caps that are designed to be thinner with wider/lower resistance
>plates. The thinner the cap the lower (in general) the inductance. This
>should make perfect sense to those of us who are microwave designers using
>single layer caps. There are a whole series of (and for some reason more
>expensive) low inductance MLC's on the market that use this principle.
>
>I have seen very few books on these subjects (maybe I should write one). The
>best information comes from technical papers written for passive symposiums.
>
>Lastly, my original post was not meant to give those designers who use Z5U
>and Y5V caps indigestion. If you find that these high dielectric value caps
>work in your design, then congratulations! If you get a large number of them
>back in a year or two after the caps have aged or failed in or next to a hot
>processor then you have been forewarned.
>
>Harold L. Snyder, Jr.
>Scientist & Consultant
>
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