Chris, They gave a pretty good description of what it was made for and why earlier in this thread. Look it up in the archives. And I second Scott, let's put this thread behind us, please! Arpad =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D -----Original Message----- From: Scott McMorrow [mailto:scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 12:59 PM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: UltraCAD ESR and Bypass Capacitor Caculator Chris, Go get'm. I'm bored and tired of this thread. scott Chris Cheng wrote: >Then what's the use of it if it can't take the placement into = consideration >and calculate loop inductance of the leads/pads of the caps in the PCB = which >I think will easily dominate over the ESL of the cap ? > > -----Original Message----- >From: Doug Brooks [mailto:doug@xxxxxxxxxx]=20 >Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 9:13 AM >To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: UltraCAD ESR and Bypass Capacitor Caculator > >While I've enjoyed the entire discussion under this heading, I feel = like I=20 >have to say once again that the UltraCAD calculator says NOTHING at all = >about placement. THAT discussion picked up under this heading some how. = Our=20 >calculator is just one (repeat "one") way to calculate a a complex=20 >impedance function. > >Doug > >At 03:56 PM 8/12/2003 +1000, you wrote: > =20 > >> it may be a good idea to put >> =20 >> > >Doug Brooks' new book, "Signal Integrity Issues and Printed Circuit = Board=20 >Design" has just been released by Prentice Hall. See details and = ordering=20 >info at www.ultracad.com >________________________________________________________________________= ____ >__ > > >------------------------------------------------------------------ >To unsubscribe from si-list: >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > >or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: >//www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > >For help: >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > >List archives are viewable at: =20 > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list >or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages=20 >Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > =20 >------------------------------------------------------------------ >To unsubscribe from si-list: >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > >or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: >//www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > >For help: >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > >List archives are viewable at: =20 > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list >or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages=20 >Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > =20 > > =20 > --=20 Scott McMorrow Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC 2926 SE Yamhill St. Portland, OR 97214 (503) 239-5536 http://www.teraspeed.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: =20 //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages=20 Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu