[SI-LIST] Re: Twisting of differential pair traces

  • From: "Nitin Sood" <Nitin.Sood@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 14:13:48 -0700

Joaquin,

If you can minimize the intermediate traversal of traces between the =
layers ,
you should be ok.=20
You can do a quick simulation to see the effect.  I have seen minimal =
effect
on gigabit traces with this scenario Of twisting the differential =
signals.

Regards
Nitin Sood

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Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 12:28 AM
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Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Twisting of differential pair traces


Hi Joaquin,

There is no problem in doing so but only when you are trying to twist, =
you=3D
will introduce an extra length for one of the trace. In other words =
you=3D
will introduce some skew b/w 'p' & 'n' trace. If that skew is under =
your=3D
tolerance level, no issues otherwise you will have to compensate for =
that=3D
skew maintaining your 100ohm differential impedance. If you have =
loosely=3D
coupled traces matching p & n length is not a problem. You can do it=3D
anywhere b/w your driver & receiver. But if you have edge coupled =
traces,=3D
the best way is to add extra trace length to p/n (which ever is short) =
at=3D
driver or receiver pins only. Hope it helps.

With regards,
Nitin=3D0D

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On=3D
Behalf Of Fonseca, Joaquin
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 11:39 AM
To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [SI-LIST] Twisting of differential pair traces

I have a question regarding routing differential signals on a =
board.=3D0D For
the case that the pair of traces of a given differential pair travels=3D =
 from
layer to layer using vias, what is the effect if the traces are=3D  =
allowed to
twist?. That is, what is the effect of having the plus trace on=3D  one =
side of
the pair on a layer, and then having it on the other side on=3D  another =
layer
(after transitioning thru vias)? (I hope I am able to=3D  explain the =
"twist"
issue).

Any comments are welcome.

Regards,
Joaqu=3DEDn

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