[SI-LIST] Re: Traces don't cause EMI - really?...and Diff. pairs

  • From: "Clewell, Craig" <cclewell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "'hassan@xxxxxxxx'" <hassan@xxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2003 12:45:10 -0400

This should add more fuel to the fire....
http://pcdandm.com/pcdmag/mag/0308/08nagle.pdf


-----Original Message-----
From: Hassan O. Ali [mailto:hassan@xxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 12:19 PM
To: leeritchey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Traces don't cause EMI - really?


Lee,

I think you need to describe your measurement setup so that we clearly 
understand what you are talking about.

For example, you need to describe the following:

- transmission line type (microstrip, stripline, etc.)
- transmission line geometry (trace length, trace width, height above 
plane, trace/plane thickness, etc.)
- material parameters (substrate, conductors, etc)
- frequency range of measurement
- excitation source
- transmission line termination conditions (both ends)
- field probing technique  (near-field? far-field? how was that measured?)
- what you mean by "significant emissions"? - give a limit e.g. 20dB 
below FCC Class B)

Regards.

Hassan.


Lee Ritchey wrote:

>Brent,
>
>I've tried several times to measure significant emissions from a single
>transmission line travelling over a plane at the distances above the plane
>one uses to create signal paths for logic circuits, the topic of concern in
>this thread, with no luck.
>
>I welcome measurements from others that supports the statement that traces
>over planes are significant sources of EMI.  So far, no one has presented
>such evidence.  Lacking such evidence, how can anyone make such claims?
>
>  
>


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