If you know that the HSPICE model is sufficiently complete, including whatever coupling mechanism causes the jitter, then it should do it. However, simulating a PLL at the transistor level with SPICE can be painful. You might be looking at effects that occur over thousands or even millions of cycles (VCO start-up and stabilization time, PLL loop dynamics), and SPICE is chugging along with much smaller time increments. If SPICE does a few thousand iterations to complete one VCO cycle, and you want to see a sequence of a million cycles ... you get the idea. In your case, you might not need to actually "see" the PLL lock up (which itself can take thousands of cycles) and track the input. Maybe all you want to do is observe and measure crosstalk into node "X" as you vary certain parameters. So maybe it's not so bad.... Regards, Andy > ---------- > I want to simulate this problem with different temperature, different > supply voltage levels and different noise levels with different=20 > frequencies. Theoretically, the HSPICE should be able to do it.=20 > I never simulated the PLL before. Anybody can shed some light on > this issue? If the SPICE is not a good tool to do it, any other > tools available to make such simulations? > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu