[SI-LIST] Re: Spice simulators
- From: "Dima Smolyansky" <Dima@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "Si-List" <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 11:59:58 -0700
Alex:
For SPICE modeling of interconnects, how about the following papers:
- "Printed Circuit Board Interconnect Characterization from TDR
Measurements"-Printed Circuit Design Magazine, May 1999, pp. 18-26 (TDA
Systems Application Note PCBD-0699)
- "Characterization of Differential Interconnects from Time Domain
Reflectometry Measurements,"-Microwave Journal, Vol. 43, No. 3, pp. 68-80
(TDA Systems application note DIFF-1099)
- "TDR Techniques for Characterization and Modeling of Electronic
Packaging," - High Density Interconnect Magazine, March and April 2001, 2
parts, TDA application note pkgm-0101
- "Lossy Transmission Line Modeling Using TDR" - TDA Application Note
loss-0601
There is more on our web site at www.tdasystems.com/support.htm. All these
are application note, focused on using TDR for all aspects of interconnect
modeling - from simple impedance measurements, to coupled lines, to losses,
S-parameteres, eye diagram prediction and jitter, in PCBs, flexboards,
cables and connectors at gigabit speeds.
Thanks,
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----- Original Message -----
From: mmunroe <mmunroe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <alexh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Si-List <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 11:21 AM
Subject: [SI-LIST] Spice simulators
>
> Alex,
>
> Three of my favorite books on this subject are - since people have been
> recently listing favorite books.
>
> High-Speed Digital System Design
> A Handbook of Interconnect Theory and Design Practices
> Stephen H. Hall, G. Hall, J. McCall
> 2000 John Wiley & Sons, Inc. ISBN 0-471-36090-2
>
> Characterization of Electrical Packages - good bibliography for each
> chapter.
> Luc Martens
> 2001 Kluwer Academic Publishers ISBN 0-7923-8307-9
>
> High-Speed Digital Design
> A Handbook of Black Magic
> Howard Johnson, Martin Graham
> 1993 Prentice-Hall, Inc. ISBN 0-13-395724-1
>
> Regarding simulation environments, a small company preparing for the futu=
> re
> might want to consider simulation environments that will support mixed
> s-parameter/SPICE interconnect modeling. I am thinking of system
> interconnect simulation as this is an area that is less well known. =
>
>
> Three simulation platforms that meet this criteria are: Ansoft Full Wave=
> ,
> Avanti StarHSPICE and Agilent ADS. We have the Agilent platform in Germa=
> ny
> and here in Virginia and expect to write a requisition for the Ansoft Ful=
> l
> Wave package shortly. - especially if they give us a discount for this
> testimonial. smile. For less exotic needs, there are some public domain
> Berkeley compatible SPICE only simulators out there.
>
> There is also a neat measurement based acquisition and simulation softwar=
> e
> tool for multi-gigabit differential cable applications that we also
> recently purchased - Oculus Cascade - atSpeed Technologies, Inc.
> (www.atspeedtecnologies.com). =
>
>
> michael munroe =
>
> The ERNI Group "Connecting the Next Generation"
> Chester, Virginia 23836
> 804-530-4283 voice mail =
>
> 804-240-7188 cell phone =
>
> 804-530-5232 fax
> 888-662-6191 pager
> www.erni.com
> www.teamZD.com
>
> message written by Alex Horvath on 8/30/2001:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I often have a need to perform spice simulations but I haven't done it fo=
> r
> years.
> Can someone recommend some spice simulators?
>
> Also, are there any good books that cover the subject of spice transmissi=
> on
> line modeling and I/O buffers?
>
> Thanks
>
> From: "Alex Horvath" <alexh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Si-List" <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [SI-LIST] Spice simulators
> Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 10:30:02 -0700
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